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by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 12:05pm PST |
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"Again?!" Yes.
Does the beast even exist? More than any other concept I've run against in my life, this one haunts me. Is morality simply a concept? Does it mean anything at all, for fuck's sake? Or is it just some nebulous thing we created, like good manners, that separates us from the beasts of the field?
Some of you know me, as much as I've let you, at any rate. Most of you don't. Maybe it's been the chaotic circumstances of my life that have led me to this constant questioning of morality. The details, however titillating they may be, aren't really important, I don't guess. Suffice it to say that in this life I've been witness and many times willing party to events that would make your skin crawl and give you bad dreams for a month. Very amoral shit, it would seem, many times flat-out illegal (not that those two things always run parallel). Looking back, it seems that I always had reasons for the things I did, some sort of justification. Sometimes I really had no other choice. Or did I?
If a man does something that he feels is for a greater good, is that then moral, even though the action itself is amoral? Do the ends justify the means? Do we conform to society's notions of morality to become moral people? Who's making these rules, anyway? And what then is the benefit of a so-called moral society, anyway? If it's all up to interpretation, where has it all gotten us? I know some of the biggest assholes around who claim the high ground because of their piety, or the fact that they're "law-abiding." Whoever claimed that the law of the land equated morality, you uppity cunts?
I know this concept is an old one. Throughout history, the various churches and other spiritual institutions have always been there to step into that void and offer the ultimate reward for behaving according to their brand of morality: ultimate, eternal spiritual orgasm. And naturally, deviation will only land you in a world of shit. OBEY, OR BURN FOREVER. What could be more persuasive than perdition? For many, this is their ultimate compass. Paradise or Hell. Easy to choose, yeah? Life's choices are easy in a world of black and white. How comforting...
Unfortunately, my spirituality holds no such notions of punishment or reward for behavior. No bad Karma coming back to bite you in the ass. No reincarnation. I don't believe in any of that. No Universal Justice System in place, sorry. I say unfortunately because there are times I crave ignorance. I want the bliss that comes with that kind of conviction. My world is full of gray. I drag a chain 5 miles long behind me. Why? Couldn't I just as easily pardon myself? It's not that I hate myself, no. But I believe my own history will repeat if I drop the consequences of the past, and frankly that terrifies me. It was bad enough the first time. I'm living a righteous life now... I think. I've learned a lot from it all. I pursue the path less-traveled, as I see it, but I'm certainly not claiming any sort of moral superiority in any way from that. I have way too much baggage to purge for that kind of luxury in attitude.
Little Crow
Is circumstantial morality the answer? Meh...
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Absolute Morality? by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 12:05pm PST 
This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 12:16pm PST 
Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 1:01pm PST 
Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 1:11pm PST 
Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 1:37pm PST 
you're. Grrr. NT NT by SB 02/10/2003, 1:38pm PST 
What was that bit from the other thread... by Atorofkittens 02/10/2003, 1:50pm PST 
Oh for the love of shit (nt) by SB 02/10/2003, 1:51pm PST 
Also: again, enough with the Fight Club! nt by fok 02/10/2003, 2:32pm PST 
Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by fok 02/10/2003, 1:14pm PST 
So, like, what's the "preview" button for? nt NT by fok 02/10/2003, 1:16pm PST 
meh by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 1:26pm PST 
Re: meh by Zseni 02/10/2003, 2:01pm PST 
Wha? by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 2:36pm PST 
I think you broke him. Nice. (nt) by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:39pm PST 
The faggot within by Chemdem 02/10/2003, 5:04pm PST 
Re: The faggot within by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:08pm PST 
Honey that game is SO VERY OLD by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 5:11pm PST 
Wait wait lemme try your methodology, Heisenberg. by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:13pm PST 
Re: Wait wait lemme try your methodology, Heisenberg. by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 5:18pm PST 
I see my methodology is in the end triumphant. by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:30pm PST 
Re: I see my methodology is in the end triumphant. by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 9:17pm PST 
Hehehe. HAHAHAHAHAH. WA HA HA HA HA. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 9:20pm PST 
Not at all, I could do a better job. (NT) by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 9:22pm PST 
Consistency by Lufteufel 02/11/2003, 11:27am PST 
Your opinion has been noted and disregarded by Senor Barborito 02/11/2003, 11:48am PST 
The faggot among us by Chemdem 02/10/2003, 8:53pm PST 
Re: The faggot among us by Zseni 02/10/2003, 9:11pm PST 
All is fair in love and faggot by Chemdem 02/11/2003, 6:53pm PST 
Re: All is fair in love and faggot by Zseni 02/11/2003, 7:20pm PST 
Absolut Morality by hit my head and forgot my nick 02/10/2003, 3:30pm PST 
Nice post by SB 02/10/2003, 4:14pm PST 
Re: Nice post by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 5:52pm PST 
It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Little Crow 02/11/2003, 4:24am PST 
Re: It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Ray, of Light 02/11/2003, 10:42am PST 
Re: It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Senor Barborito 02/11/2003, 7:47pm PST 
Should read 'unreliable' -NT- NT by SB 02/11/2003, 7:48pm PST 
Finally, For the Love of the Black Baby Jesus by Little Crow 02/11/2003, 3:22am PST 
Uninformed answer by laudablepuss 02/10/2003, 3:51pm PST 
Here it is: the answer you didn't know you sought by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 7:06pm PST 
That was a good link by tired 02/10/2003, 10:41pm PST 
Nihilism: ENGAGE! by mrs. johnson 02/11/2003, 1:57am PST 
You're showering sparks all over the place. by conflictNo 02/11/2003, 3:08am PST 
Thanks. Mistakes were made. People were killed. n/T NT by mrs. johnson 02/11/2003, 10:54am PST 
Sounds like SOMEONE forgot to go on a Vision Quest! :( by Fussbett 02/11/2003, 2:25am PST 
Re: Absolute Morality? by Zebco Fuckface 02/11/2003, 7:05am PST 
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