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Absolute Morality? by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 12:05pm PST
"Again?!" Yes.

Does the beast even exist? More than any other concept I've run against in my life, this one haunts me. Is morality simply a concept? Does it mean anything at all, for fuck's sake? Or is it just some nebulous thing we created, like good manners, that separates us from the beasts of the field?

Some of you know me, as much as I've let you, at any rate. Most of you don't. Maybe it's been the chaotic circumstances of my life that have led me to this constant questioning of morality. The details, however titillating they may be, aren't really important, I don't guess. Suffice it to say that in this life I've been witness and many times willing party to events that would make your skin crawl and give you bad dreams for a month. Very amoral shit, it would seem, many times flat-out illegal (not that those two things always run parallel). Looking back, it seems that I always had reasons for the things I did, some sort of justification. Sometimes I really had no other choice. Or did I?

If a man does something that he feels is for a greater good, is that then moral, even though the action itself is amoral? Do the ends justify the means? Do we conform to society's notions of morality to become moral people? Who's making these rules, anyway? And what then is the benefit of a so-called moral society, anyway? If it's all up to interpretation, where has it all gotten us? I know some of the biggest assholes around who claim the high ground because of their piety, or the fact that they're "law-abiding." Whoever claimed that the law of the land equated morality, you uppity cunts?

I know this concept is an old one. Throughout history, the various churches and other spiritual institutions have always been there to step into that void and offer the ultimate reward for behaving according to their brand of morality: ultimate, eternal spiritual orgasm. And naturally, deviation will only land you in a world of shit. OBEY, OR BURN FOREVER. What could be more persuasive than perdition? For many, this is their ultimate compass. Paradise or Hell. Easy to choose, yeah? Life's choices are easy in a world of black and white. How comforting...

Unfortunately, my spirituality holds no such notions of punishment or reward for behavior. No bad Karma coming back to bite you in the ass. No reincarnation. I don't believe in any of that. No Universal Justice System in place, sorry. I say unfortunately because there are times I crave ignorance. I want the bliss that comes with that kind of conviction. My world is full of gray. I drag a chain 5 miles long behind me. Why? Couldn't I just as easily pardon myself? It's not that I hate myself, no. But I believe my own history will repeat if I drop the consequences of the past, and frankly that terrifies me. It was bad enough the first time. I'm living a righteous life now... I think. I've learned a lot from it all. I pursue the path less-traveled, as I see it, but I'm certainly not claiming any sort of moral superiority in any way from that. I have way too much baggage to purge for that kind of luxury in attitude.


Little Crow
Is circumstantial morality the answer? Meh...

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Absolute Morality? by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 12:05pm PST NEW
    This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 12:16pm PST NEW
        Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Little Crow 02/10/2003, 1:01pm PST NEW
            Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 1:11pm PST NEW
                Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 1:37pm PST NEW
                    you're. Grrr. NT NT by SB 02/10/2003, 1:38pm PST NEW
                    What was that bit from the other thread... by Atorofkittens 02/10/2003, 1:50pm PST NEW
                        Oh for the love of shit (nt) by SB 02/10/2003, 1:51pm PST NEW
                            Also: again, enough with the Fight Club! nt by fok 02/10/2003, 2:32pm PST NEW
            Re: This is not the place, and you are not the fag to do it. (nt) by fok 02/10/2003, 1:14pm PST NEW
                So, like, what's the "preview" button for? nt NT by fok 02/10/2003, 1:16pm PST NEW
        meh by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 1:26pm PST NEW
            Re: meh by Zseni 02/10/2003, 2:01pm PST NEW
                Wha? by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 2:36pm PST NEW
                    I think you broke him. Nice. (nt) by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:39pm PST NEW
                The faggot within by Chemdem 02/10/2003, 5:04pm PST NEW
                    Re: The faggot within by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:08pm PST NEW
                        Honey that game is SO VERY OLD by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 5:11pm PST NEW
                            Wait wait lemme try your methodology, Heisenberg. by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:13pm PST NEW
                                Re: Wait wait lemme try your methodology, Heisenberg. by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 5:18pm PST NEW
                                    I see my methodology is in the end triumphant. by Zseni 02/10/2003, 5:30pm PST NEW
                                        Re: I see my methodology is in the end triumphant. by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 9:17pm PST NEW
                                            Hehehe. HAHAHAHAHAH. WA HA HA HA HA. (nt) by Zseni 02/10/2003, 9:20pm PST NEW
                                                Not at all, I could do a better job. (NT) by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 9:22pm PST NEW
                                            Consistency by Lufteufel 02/11/2003, 11:27am PST NEW
                                                Your opinion has been noted and disregarded by Senor Barborito 02/11/2003, 11:48am PST NEW
                        The faggot among us by Chemdem 02/10/2003, 8:53pm PST NEW
                            Re: The faggot among us by Zseni 02/10/2003, 9:11pm PST NEW
                                All is fair in love and faggot by Chemdem 02/11/2003, 6:53pm PST NEW
                                    Re: All is fair in love and faggot by Zseni 02/11/2003, 7:20pm PST NEW
    Absolut Morality by hit my head and forgot my nick 02/10/2003, 3:30pm PST NEW
        Nice post by SB 02/10/2003, 4:14pm PST NEW
            Re: Nice post by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 5:52pm PST NEW
            It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Little Crow 02/11/2003, 4:24am PST NEW
                Re: It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Ray, of Light 02/11/2003, 10:42am PST NEW
                Re: It would take a cunning plan to pull off, yes by Senor Barborito 02/11/2003, 7:47pm PST NEW
                    Should read 'unreliable' -NT- NT by SB 02/11/2003, 7:48pm PST NEW
        Finally, For the Love of the Black Baby Jesus by Little Crow 02/11/2003, 3:22am PST NEW
    Uninformed answer by laudablepuss 02/10/2003, 3:51pm PST NEW
    Here it is: the answer you didn't know you sought by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 7:06pm PST NEW
        That was a good link by tired 02/10/2003, 10:41pm PST NEW
    Nihilism: ENGAGE! by mrs. johnson 02/11/2003, 1:57am PST NEW
        You're showering sparks all over the place. by conflictNo 02/11/2003, 3:08am PST NEW
            Thanks. Mistakes were made. People were killed. n/T NT by mrs. johnson 02/11/2003, 10:54am PST NEW
    Sounds like SOMEONE forgot to go on a Vision Quest! :( by Fussbett 02/11/2003, 2:25am PST NEW
    Re: Absolute Morality? by Zebco Fuckface 02/11/2003, 7:05am PST NEW
 
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