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by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 3:31pm PST |
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Senor Barborito wrote:
I need clarification wrote:
Ray, of Light wrote:
Further, that someone is well composed and often funny enough to give his charges a sheen of legitimacy.
Ray!
The legitimacy of my charges has nothing to do with how unfunny I am. My charges were (and are) that SB is turning the site into his (and Veronica's) extremely boring E/N blog, that ES has started to show a heavy hand, and that in general Caltrops is a shoddy site run by two incompetent admins. The existence of this thread lends legitimacy to those charges, not me. The fact that the first article on the site is a rambling, unreadable "review" of a Half-Life MOD lends legitimacy to the charge, not me. The fact that there has been MORE NEW CONTENT ON OMM IN THE PAST WEEK THAN ON CALTOPS lends legitimacy to the charge, NOT ME motherfuckers.
'Open participation' - anyone can write anything, anywhere. 0 bans, 0 non-spam posts deleted AFAIK.
Open participation means that no one person can turn the site into any one thing. The site is the community and I can't speak for anybody else but so far I love the community. How you feel about it is your business. If you don't like it, I hear a lot of people like you enjoy SomethingAwful and Lowtax's neo-fascist approach to forum moderation. You'll note that he responds to complaints with deletion of paid-for accounts and IP bans. I *ASK* for complaints and try to work with the people who feel I'm not living up to their expectations. Entropy Stew is heavy-handed? Have you ever been on a forum, ever, at all? What the hell? If anything accuse me of being heavy-handed. Admittedly I don't do anything but I do rant and rave. ES doesn't even do that.
Nobody is keeping you from making your own better site, either. You talk big with words like 'shoddy' but methinks you've got small cajones, amigo.
Right here on caltrops? It's open, free, and if you don't like what one person says you don't have to click their names. Much like mark owned you with his BSP references - if you've shamed yourself like Vag confronted with a real live surgeon nobody will force you to apologize but they will mock you for all time until you admit to having been wrong.
Put shortly you have no fucking reason to complain. Don't like the content? Write better content, we won't stop you and if you're funny you'll get your attempts at articles on the front page regardless of what I think about you. Don't like the site? Make a better one, we can't stop you.
The only person you have to blame for your irritation is yourself. ES and I went out and got shit done, and when I'm outpacing you in the 'getting shit done' category you'd better take stock of yourself and wonder if the problem isn't really that you're a dribbling incompetent who isn't good for anything but whining about other people's work.
Post something cool, make a better site - do anything, but don't fucking whine incessantly like a fifteen-year-old because you think I can somehow magically influence a large (250 people read this site EVERY DAY, bitch) community. There is only one person at fault in each of your complaints.
You.
--SB
I just want to apologize for forgetting to mention Fussbett's incredible contributions to this site, as well as all our content people. I said ES and I only because those were the two people INC was complaining about. Sorry for that oversight.
--SB |
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Yell at me here (only for Barborito-haters) by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 9:41pm PST 
AND ABOUT THAT POP3 oops by Bill Dungsroman 02/09/2003, 10:06pm PST 
And if that fails... by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 11:05pm PST 
You get out what you put in by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 12:19am PST 
In other words, "Nuh-uh, YOU are." Thanks. by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:32am PST 
You finally show your value as a forum-plaything by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 5:10am PST 
Uh, yeah by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:24pm PST 
I feel like Dennis Miller -nt- by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 2:31pm PST 
Re: And if that fails... by Bill Dungsroman 02/10/2003, 11:13am PST 
That's better [almost NT] by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:20pm PST 
Re: That's better [almost NT] by Bill Dungsroman 02/10/2003, 4:06pm PST 
almost NT? by FABIO 02/10/2003, 7:43pm PST 
Re: And if that fails... by junior allen 02/10/2003, 2:05pm PST 
YUO = GAYHAUS -nt- by Entropy Stew 02/09/2003, 10:32pm PST 
I don't hate you, but there IS the issue of odor<nt> by Bodybag 02/10/2003, 12:49am PST 
"Clarification: This Is I Need Clarification. The Other Post Is Not -NT- " by Clarification 02/10/2003, 1:30am PST 
This very thread is the absolute lowest point so far. by Fussbett 02/10/2003, 4:40am PST 
The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 5:12am PST 
Synopsis: your love is stifling by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 5:14am PST 
Why was that aimed at me? -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 5:17am PST 
Clarification is in demand, these days by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 6:20am PST 
Re: Clarification is in demand, these days by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 9:14am PST 
For fuck's sake by Entropy Stew 02/10/2003, 1:50pm PST 
Proposal for solution to this problem by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 1:56pm PST 
NOT GETTING IT by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:03pm PST 
Re: NOT GETTING IT by CrackerBarrel 02/10/2003, 2:08pm PST 
Re: NOT GETTING IT by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:16pm PST 
Umm. by I need edumacation 02/10/2003, 2:29pm PST 
HAHA You changed your nickname to make fun of mine! EXQUISITE! by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:48pm PST 
You could not be more wrong by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 2:52pm PST 
Re: NOT GETTING IT by I need defibrillation 02/10/2003, 2:36pm PST 
Another Brilliant Screenname by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:48pm PST 
This would make atoring admins bad, since we now have two names -nt- by Admin #9 02/10/2003, 2:04pm PST 
That is an incredibly bad "solution" -nt- by mark 02/10/2003, 6:34pm PST 
Two degrees of gay separation by Fussbett 02/11/2003, 3:52am PST 
OK I GET THAT THIS WAS A REALLY BAD IDEA THANK YOU by Senor Barborito 02/11/2003, 12:54pm PST 
FRESH IDEA HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE by Zseni 02/11/2003, 2:29pm PST 
Re: For fuck's sake by FABIO 02/10/2003, 7:49pm PST 
Re: For fuck's sake by Lufteufel 02/10/2003, 8:49pm PST 
It's not me by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 2:39pm PST 
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US! hehehehehehe (nt) by Not Ripping Off Kevin Smith 02/10/2003, 2:54pm PST 
Re: It's not me by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 3:13pm PST 
Addendum by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 3:31pm PST 
Re: Addendum by I need atoring 02/10/2003, 3:37pm PST 
Hey, don't forget about me! by conflictNo 02/10/2003, 3:30pm PST 
Re: Hey, don't forget about me! by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 3:35pm PST 
Re: Hey, don't forget about me! by curst 02/10/2003, 5:32pm PST 
Re: Hey, don't forget about me! by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 5:36pm PST 
Re: Hey, don't forget about me! by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 6:57pm PST 
Re: It's not me by Bill Dungsroman 02/10/2003, 3:40pm PST 
"Nostrodumbass?" Don't make me ask you to ban yourself, HSW by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 4:19pm PST 
Re: "Nostrodumbass?" Don't make me ask you to ban yourself, HSW by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 4:25pm PST 
Congrads by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 4:45pm PST 
You didn't pass logic, did you? by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 4:51pm PST 
I can't ban anyone. Pay attention. by Bill Dungsroman 02/10/2003, 5:35pm PST 
Well, that's about it then, I guess. by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 7:59pm PST 
Re: Well, that's about it then, I guess. by Bill Dungsroman 02/11/2003, 12:33pm PST 
Re: Well, that's about it then, I guess. by Ray, of Light 02/11/2003, 9:21pm PST 
You must be from DUMBASSCUS!!!!! by laudablepuss 02/10/2003, 8:31pm PST 
on content. by Motherhead 02/10/2003, 5:23pm PST 
Well said (nt) by SB 02/10/2003, 5:26pm PST 
Revisions and proofreading by I need clarification 02/11/2003, 1:39pm PST 
Revisions and proofreading by Bill Dungsroman 02/11/2003, 1:50pm PST 
Still reading... by I need clarification 02/11/2003, 2:20pm PST 
Re: It's not me by Ray, of Light 02/10/2003, 7:39pm PST 
Jesus, why do you have to be so sane? by I need clarification 02/10/2003, 7:57pm PST 
Your critique got off track here. by Fussbett 02/11/2003, 3:59am PST 
Thanks, this is good -NT- by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 8:39am PST 
Re: This very thread is the absolute lowest point so far. by FABIO 02/10/2003, 10:11am PST 
Yeah I got something. by Jhoh Creexul 02/10/2003, 9:19am PST 
Re: Yeah I got something. by Cyrris 02/12/2003, 12:37am PST 
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