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Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by E. L. Koba 04/01/2003, 10:48pm PST
Chairman mao wrote:

E. L. Koba wrote:

That's the key. Rumsfelds (the civilian) plan would have failed. In his plan, only 50,000 ground troops were needed. Super amazing high tech air power would win the war in a week, and the ground troops would roll in with no resistance. The current plan is a compromise, and has not failed. It just hasn't been as easy as the media was making it out to be. The "rolling deployment" was to satisfy Rumsfeld and the top Army commanders. The pentagon wanted at least 6 divisions. That plan would have been a little better, but we are still doing amazingly well.


This is also the key; the press was thumping the war drum feverishly leading up to this, swallowing everything Rumsy and Co. threw at them and shitting yellow journalism all over the nation. Now that it hasn't turned into a turkey shoot, they're all freaking out because their guys may not be home in time to collect their awards.

Yes, it is against all military knowledge to have three divisions up front, without at least one in reserve (to protect supply lines and to guard against breakthroughs). But Rumsfeld and Co are obsessed with "transformational warfare" and unconventional tactics. Well guess what. You don't get style points in war. There is no virtue in being outnumbered. War is about bringing as much violence as you can against the enemy. You can't do that without boots and tracks on the the ground. Lots of them.


You know that, aspiring armchair soldiers like myself know that, but it scares me still that there are people so starry-eyed about the whole affair that this compromise had to take place at all.


The idea of Rumsfeld telling these general how to fight a war is like me going up to a Korean and telling him how to play Starcraft. I have seen Starcraft played before, and I even played a bit of the single player. But these Koreans have dedicated their lives to it. How much could I possibly offer to these guys? Rummy should shut up and let these guys deploy the troops in the proper build order.
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Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by MOAB 03/30/2003, 8:55pm PST NEW
    Enh Robert Fisk did it last war, too. Remember when he got beaten up? NT by Senor Barborito 03/30/2003, 9:50pm PST NEW
        Fisk of the Fiskie Award (a.k.a. Idiotarian of the Year) for most stupid person. NT by Jhoh Creexul 03/31/2003, 12:15am PST NEW
    Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by Zebco Fuckface 03/31/2003, 4:15am PST NEW
        Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by MOAB 03/31/2003, 4:58am PST NEW
            actually by MOAB 03/31/2003, 6:18am PST NEW
            Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by foogla 03/31/2003, 7:23am PST NEW
                Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by MOAB 03/31/2003, 7:57am PST NEW
                    Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by t0ny 03/31/2003, 1:52pm PST NEW
                        Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by MOAB 03/31/2003, 3:47pm PST NEW
                        Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by E. L. Koba 03/31/2003, 11:31pm PST NEW
                            Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by Mysterio 04/01/2003, 12:04am PST NEW
                                That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. NT by Chairman mao 04/01/2003, 12:23am PST NEW
                                    Re: That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. by foogla 04/01/2003, 3:02am PST NEW
                                        Re: That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. by Mike McMac 04/01/2003, 3:22am PST NEW
                                            Re: That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. by foogla 04/01/2003, 7:48am PST NEW
                                                Re: That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. by FOF 04/01/2003, 9:56am PST NEW
                                                    Re: That's 3:1. According to Napoleon and B.H.L. Hart, anyway. by Slappy 04/02/2003, 2:24am PST NEW
                            Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by Chairman mao 04/01/2003, 12:21am PST NEW
                                Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by E. L. Koba 04/01/2003, 10:48pm PST NEW
            There was a plan, just not this one by Damocles 04/01/2003, 10:21am PST NEW
                By the way, if you want spin-free news... by Damocles 04/01/2003, 10:27am PST NEW
    Peter Arnett was fired and apologized for his comments - don't remember Fisk NT by apologizing. SB 03/31/2003, 10:17am PST NEW
    Reporters strike another blow against the US war machine. by conflictNo 03/31/2003, 6:28pm PST NEW
        Re: Reporters strike another blow against the US war machine. by Entropy Stew 03/31/2003, 6:51pm PST NEW
        Let us pray for the men Rivera betrayed today . . . by Senor Barborito 03/31/2003, 7:09pm PST NEW
            Our child soldiers will melt their hearts. AND THEIR FACES. WITH FLAMES. by conflictNo 03/31/2003, 7:23pm PST NEW
                Re: Our child soldiers will melt their hearts. AND THEIR FACES. WITH FLAMES. by MOAB 03/31/2003, 7:29pm PST NEW
                    I'd use him as an extra layer of tank armor by Entropy Stew 03/31/2003, 7:40pm PST NEW
                        Re: I'd use him as an extra layer of tank armor by t0ny 04/01/2003, 3:38pm PST NEW
    Re: Peter Arnett goes Anti-USA (again)? by Zebco Fuckface 04/01/2003, 11:49pm PST NEW
 
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