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Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FoK 04/17/2003, 11:49am PDT


Whoa whoa whoa whoa hey-there, chief. I only listed the albums I *purchased*. This does not mean I didn't have a NIN fanboi period, Marilyn Manson phase, or that Veronica doesn't own literally thousands of CD/tapes/mp3 rips of them.



I see. I guess it really depends on whether Veronica actually makes you listen to stuff. For instance, I own a lot of stuff that I've never played for my wife because she doesn't like her music edgy. So, she doesn't know the Pixies well, she hasn't heard My Bloody Valentine, she doesn't know Front 242 or Nitzer Ebb, the list goes on. Those cds are all in our apartment, but if she wants to put something on it's going to be Al Green.

Been there, done them. Pixies rule, duh. Any band with Kim Deal *almost always* rules, and Pixies and Breeders are where she rules the hardest.


Kim Deal is the motherfucking man, (and is *a* motherfucking man), agreed. Don't discount, though, the contributions of Charles Thompson
(Black Francis") and Joey Santiago. Back in his day, Frank could write 15 awesome songs to Kim's 1. He sucks now, of course, but he's over 40. Nobody can keep their edge that long (except TMBG). Frank Black's Teenager of The Yearis the third-best album in the Pixies canon (behind Doolittle and Last Splash). Joey Santiago basically invented the way indie rock freakout lead guitar would be played.

Fuck Sonic Youth in the ear. I hate them.


That's understandable. They're definitely stupid assholes and it comes through in their music (and their lyrics are beyond awful). But they're still required listening, since they did amazing twin-guitar things that have yet to be duplicated.

OK, I've never heard of Tom Waits. Noted.

He's very good for a certain mood. If you like to drink, get Small Change - best get-drunk record EVAR. If you like to sit in a dark room and worry about your mortality, then it's Bone Machine. There's a bunch of other interesting concept albums in there, other Waits fans would probably recommend one of those instead, but whatever.

Jawbox, at least, I will check out - as well as Fugazi. Burning Airlines is not one of the bands I've ever heard ToD compared to, but I'll at keep an eye peeled.


Jawbox is great. Burning Airlines is basically the same band in a different configuration, with less dissonance, more space, and faster songs.

Fugazi... I don't understand why ToD gets compared to them, I just don't see it. I love Fugazi, but depending on what you're looking for they have radically different periods. Their first album is sort of reggae-punky, then they hit their most characteristic period (Margin Walker EP, Repeater) where they were the world's tightest post-punk band, then they got very experimental and made what I think were there best records (Red Medicine) but no one agrees with me on this.

No, GYBE apparently reminds everybody of Mogwai. To such an extent that, once again, you're the first person to even mention Branca to me.


Glenn Branca isn't a rocker so much as a New York art-fag a la John Zorn. In the 80's he created these "symphonies" from huge groups of guitarists and bassists to go out and make minimalist textural stuff that presaged modern day indie-rock guitar textures. Page Hamilton (of Helmet) and Thurston Moore are both Branca alums. They're sort of hard to get into, my tendency is to listen to them and go "*shrug* This is interesting, I guess." Kind of like GYBE!

Egotistical self-jab: isn't Chris Walla the amazingly good-looking one?


?

Why, are you he?

He's the skinny Brian Eno-looking one.
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    pop is the soy of music by foogla 04/16/2003, 3:36pm PDT NEW
    Also bad: Counting Crows plus Vanessa Carlton plus Joni Mitchell by Fussbett 04/16/2003, 6:26pm PDT NEW
        OMG Vanessa Carlton BONER by Bill Dungsroman 04/16/2003, 6:35pm PDT NEW
        All the albums I've bought, in order. The horror . . . the horror. by Senor Barborito 04/16/2003, 10:43pm PDT NEW
            Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FoK 04/17/2003, 9:53am PDT NEW
                Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 10:50am PDT NEW
                    Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FoK 04/17/2003, 11:49am PDT NEW
                        Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by RoryleeLuloff 04/17/2003, 12:25pm PDT NEW
                            uroboros? How effete of you. NT by jeep 04/17/2003, 1:57pm PDT NEW
                        Not an ex-Gin Blossoms fan. Some new-ish records are good, too. by jeep 04/17/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
                            D-d-dismemberment Plan did WHAT? by Fullofkittens 04/17/2003, 2:25pm PDT NEW
                                The made one more record, "Change," and then they broke up. NT by jeep 04/17/2003, 2:29pm PDT NEW
                                Death Cab has effectively stopped playing together, too, chief. NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 2:38pm PDT NEW
                                    Damn! Well, at least Burning Airlines is still together! NT by Fullofkittens 04/17/2003, 3:16pm PDT NEW
                                    Wait, Death Cab for Cutie broke up?! Or are they on sko gay 'hiatus?' Motherfuck NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/17/2003, 3:21pm PDT NEW
                                        There's nothing official, they're just not doing anything together at the moment NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 9:06pm PDT NEW
                Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/17/2003, 2:07pm PDT NEW
                    That was the name of the single, yeah. Fuck now I can't get it out of my head. NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 2:11pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FullofSemen 04/17/2003, 2:16pm PDT NEW
                        My theory, revised. by Fussbett 04/17/2003, 8:31pm PDT NEW
                            All the cars with rear-wheel drive, I've bought, in order . . . by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 9:13pm PDT NEW
                                My favourite SB post ever. Funny. NT by Fussbett 04/18/2003, 3:37am PDT NEW
                                I DIDN'T -nt- by Entropy Stew 04/19/2003, 5:36pm PDT NEW
                                    FUCKDAMN THREADS NT by Entropy Stew 04/19/2003, 5:36pm PDT NEW
                                        MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE PROGRAMMED A FILTER THAT MAKES POSTS GO WHERE THEY BELONG NT by creativepig 04/21/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
                                            MAYBE I'LL FILTER MY COFFEE THROUGH YOUR MUCOUS FUCKING MEMBRANES, LOVEY NT by Entropy Stew 04/21/2003, 7:59pm PDT NEW
                I HAVE LISTENED TO THE VELVET TEEN, GOD FUCK IT by Alternate789 04/17/2003, 10:03pm PDT NEW
                    ...*blink* by Fullofkittens 04/18/2003, 12:01am PDT NEW
                        A Reply; and also A Special Message to Barbie and GYBE! Fans by creativepig 04/21/2003, 2:31pm PDT NEW
                            Re: A Reply; and also A Special Message to Barbie and GYBE! Fans by Alternate789 04/21/2003, 8:30pm PDT NEW
                                The True Face by Fullofrenes 04/21/2003, 10:46pm PDT NEW
                                    Holy fucking GAY, sir. by Senor Barborito 04/22/2003, 3:20am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Holy fucking GAY, sir. by FoK 04/22/2003, 7:30am PDT NEW
                                            Fag NT by MOAB 04/22/2003, 8:01am PDT NEW
                                            "Men" like you built the atom bomb. by Senor Barborito 04/22/2003, 11:14am PDT NEW
                                            So, what you're saying is that you sucked intentionally in order to be edgy? NT by Entropy Stew 04/22/2003, 1:10pm PDT NEW
                                                That's what my brother's band did. by Chairman Mao 04/22/2003, 1:14pm PDT NEW
                                                    That's also what the sex pistols did. by MOAB 04/22/2003, 1:31pm PDT NEW
                                                        and Steely Dan by veronica 04/22/2003, 7:28pm PDT NEW
                                                            HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAAAAAAAAHAhahahahaHHAHAHASHAHHAHAHAAHA NT by Entropy Stew 04/22/2003, 9:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                Poor ES, not a Dan fan by veronica 04/22/2003, 10:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                    George Carlin also. by Jhoh Creexul 04/23/2003, 12:49am PDT NEW
                                                No. by Fullofkittens 04/24/2003, 4:53pm PDT NEW
                                        On the contrary, by creativepig 04/23/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
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