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Yeah, I fucking wiped the table with you, bitch. by Zseni 07/21/2004, 4:39am PDT
I mean LOOK at this bullshit:

Ray of Light wrote:

Zseni wrote:

It's true, Ray: I have the cunt. But you have the estrogen. Look at you, splitting hairs, picking through the numbers, making sloppy inferences which barely conceal dated lines - "oh Zseni yo momma so fat, she half the females on the planet right now"...


The involvement of your mother rests on your shoulders, but it's true that if I'd said something different, it would have been a cliché. Point: you.

How's this for not splitting hairs: Beef jerky is macho food. Whatever you're saying is right insofar as it agrees. Maybe your mother is macho, I don't know. Are there exceptions to my absolute statement? Yes. Absolute s concerning three billion of anything will have holes in them; my raging masculinity abstracts that away.

So there it is: bed down with the hobgoblin of foolish consistency (no, not SB) and a winner is you. Victory on silver is yours, should you dare to claim it.

You're all over the board here, voce Seanbaby, but essentially it's all obsfucation and glamour wafting around a single central core: beef jerky is a manly snack because Ray! says so. You = non-cognizant that you have just spent hours, pages defending roving-pack jerky purchasing as a male bonding trait. Is it the act or the idea that you think is non-gay? You keep coming back to jerky in and of itself as macho, but have nothing except pure circular reasoning to back you up; meanwhile, you've been letting me lead the whole dance and are now getting around to the part where you protest that oh you could never not on a first date...

Frugality is MACHO? Inasmuch as the great battle lords throughout history traded on their outrageous generosity and the hallmark of a gentleman, so it is said, is to provide employment for the working class, and you are here before me priding yourself on stretching your homosexual dollars?


These "smart contradictions" are neither.

1. Battle lords: frugality is a subset of the skills required for war. Where do you think we men learned it? Generosity, when present, came AFTER the lean years and, even then, should be construed as a shrewd political gambit rather than simple spendthriftliness.

2. Employers: miserly by definition. You can't employ another without surplus, that sweet sweet fruit of the frugal tree.

3. Me, stretching dollars, et. al.: obviously frugal. I guess you're refuting my manliness, then, or probing for it or whatever. At this point in the convo, I'd put my finger to your lips and say, "hush, baby, let's not get crazy but instead GET CRAZY". Then, I would focus all my powers of analysis on becoming whatever is missing from your life and the transition would be so smooth you would hardly notice. I would ask that you save us time by fainting straightaway, and you would comply, knowing you're awaited by the pleasure-filled sleep of the unwary.

That's all hypothetical, though, and predicated on a universe where you are not fat.

That's good, a fat joke. You were out of material when you were writing stuff like "beef jerky is macho" and that's before anyone even argued with you. It's pointless mincing words with a "man" who thinks the manliness of battle lords lie in whether they clip coupons or not.

You're glib with figures,
You: emptyhanded.
more up-to-date with marketing research than sexual politics,
You: share veronica's taste in men. I'll come back to this one.
fast to support clumsy reasoning
You: need to see above.
and short attention spans
You: waddling to a conclusion. Why don't we see who falters first?

Are you talking about cunts? Why can't you just say "cunts"? What's up with the coy inferences? Men aren't good with inferences. They like things simple and straightforward, like intercourse without foreplay and beanie weenies.
But you said sloppy inferences were a fem trait?? Confused is me! Anyway, liking something and being good at it are independent variables. Just ask any man who's ever changed a tire, a diaper, or a woman's mind.

And what's all this shit? I get it already, you're not Dubya, sorry for stepping on your toes. Handwaving nonsense in which you pause briefly to identify tire changing as unlikeable and diaper changing as something you're good at. Are you fucking with me? Are we having a war to see if I can race to bulldykeness faster than you can run away from all that is macho? Or are you baseline definining "macho" as "manly like a sensitive new age guy"?

And here you are just assuming that whatever the fuck your point is,
It was fifteen words long. "Beef jerky: women don't eat it. Ever at all. It's therefore manly. Frugality? Also manly."

The out of context quote with sly obvious retort. That's good too, Mr. President. Does this mean I'm Hillary Clinton, or does it just mean you're rhetorically bankrupt?

Men understand each other, don't they, sugar. Yeah they do. You can console each other about how mean and insensitive those awful Women are and then have life-affirming buttsex where you each know everything the other guy likes because, you know, you're guys. Understanding guys who understand each other.

You can laugh at my yaoi fixation and my penis, Ray!, but at least I'm not a closet case who was mandated into office by Daddy's friends. I've earned everything I have and I'm not ashamed of the things and people I love. You can make fun of me, Ray! - you can even invite your little friends to make fun of me - but don't call yourself a Manly Man when you're using articles from American Demographics to agree with my point.


(voce sensibile) This isn't about jerky, is it? What's wrong? Let daddy fix it and, in doing, express some freakish, tradesman's approximation of the love you wish he'd shown.

(voce convenzionale) You sound betrodden. Take responsibility for your feelings. Jam a tampon in that fount of gushiness. The yin power is a dark and powerful one; your amateurish flexing of it makes me cringe-laugh. If my mastery of the same is why you think me feminine, that's a fatal mistake.

Nobody's contesting your mastery of yin energy, Ray. It's okay to tell me I'm bad at being a girl because 1. I am and 2. you're a master of yin energy. How is that helping your "jerky, me, my buds, and our mutual jerky purchase are macho" contention? Or are you just going for whatever points you can get now?

Have some jerky and quit worrying so much about what other people think of you.


You're behind the times. Some people would commemorate that metamorphosis by changing screennames and writing a long article for exposition. I couldn't be arsed.

Ray!

Francine here finishes off with yet another protestation of being too tired to follow through and a little snack of British slang. I think I saw you on LiveJournal posting protest letters about Angel getting cancelled, fag.
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WAI WAI! by Zseni on Windows XP :( 07/19/2004, 10:28pm PDT NEW
    Did you know it's hard to figure out when you've posted? NT by Zseni on Windows XP :( 07/19/2004, 10:28pm PDT NEW
        Re: Did you know it's hard to figure out when you've posted? by dragon worrier 07/21/2004, 11:31pm PDT NEW
    Re: WAI WAI! by Chairman Mao 07/19/2004, 11:53pm PDT NEW
    Re: WAI WAI! by Bill Dungsroman 07/20/2004, 12:22am PDT NEW
        Re: WAI WAI! by Zseni on Windows XP :( 07/20/2004, 1:32am PDT NEW
            Re: WAI WAI! by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 2:35am PDT NEW
                Re: WAI WAI! by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 2:37am PDT NEW
                    I recommended that you eat it. BDR concurred. NT by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 2:42am PDT NEW
                        No, I mean the brand! THE BRAND, MAN! NT by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 3:15am PDT NEW
                            You are not your brand of Jerky. NT by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 3:17am PDT NEW
                                That Ted Nugent brand used to be really awesome. NT by Creexul :( 07/20/2004, 3:23am PDT NEW
                                So you don't know? Or remember? NT by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 3:25am PDT NEW
                                    OK, I'll trade you by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 3:47am PDT NEW
                                        Jack Link's Carne Seca kicks Sweet & Hot in the balls. NT by Bodybag. 07/20/2004, 6:51am PDT NEW
                                            Sounds Mexican, don't have it in Canada. NT by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 7:02am PDT NEW
                                            Their Beefsteak Nuggets are fucking great by Entropy Stew 07/22/2004, 12:48pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: OK, I'll trade you by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 12:33pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: OK, I'll trade you by whydirt 07/20/2004, 7:11pm PDT NEW
                    Was it best damn beef jerky, or, oh here it is. by Worm 07/21/2004, 3:11pm PDT NEW
                Beef Jerky? Axis? What? by Mischief Maker 07/20/2004, 9:08am PDT NEW
                Re: WAI WAI! by Zseni on Windows XP :( 07/20/2004, 10:58am PDT NEW
                    Re: WAI WAI! by Mischief Maker 07/20/2004, 11:17am PDT NEW
                    Re: WAI WAI! by Ray of Light 07/20/2004, 12:27pm PDT NEW
                        Oh my god, who are you and what have you done with Ray? by Zseni 07/20/2004, 1:53pm PDT NEW
                            I`ve been Vagged by Ray of Light 07/21/2004, 1:49am PDT NEW
                                People got on my case when I said Ray wasn't funny or clever anymore :( NT by I need clarification 07/21/2004, 4:31am PDT NEW
                                    And rightly so NT by Arbiter of Comedy 07/21/2004, 10:15am PDT NEW
                                        You're fat! HURRR!!! NT by I need clarification 07/22/2004, 2:40am PDT NEW
                                            But he said it FUNNILY. by Arbiter of Comedy 07/22/2004, 4:57pm PDT NEW
                                Yeah, I fucking wiped the table with you, bitch. by Zseni 07/21/2004, 4:39am PDT NEW
                                    What is it about a man on a table that you find so attractive? by Ray of Light 07/21/2004, 1:09pm PDT NEW
                                        Hopefully this is the part where Zseni, flustered, stops posting for a month NT by Entropy Stew 07/21/2004, 2:58pm PDT NEW
                                            Or demands Ray! not reply to her posts, cuz he's all serious and mean. NT by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2004, 4:26pm PDT NEW
                                            PREDICITION ACCURACY 94% NT by And rising 07/24/2004, 7:46pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: What is it about a man on a table that you find so attractive? by Zseni 07/21/2004, 6:31pm PDT NEW
                                            I didn't even read this NT by Entropy Stew 07/21/2004, 6:33pm PDT NEW
                                                Me neither. NT by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2004, 6:34pm PDT NEW
                                                    That's okay, Zseni hasn't been reading Ray's posts either by laudablepuss 07/21/2004, 6:47pm PDT NEW
                                                    The real me did. NT by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2004, 11:18pm PDT NEW
                                                        No, the real me didn't. NT by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2004, 11:57pm PDT NEW
                                                            The forum is much funnier and wackier with these types of goings-on NT by Bill Dungsroman 07/22/2004, 1:07pm PDT NEW
                                            I even read this by Ray of Light 07/21/2004, 7:46pm PDT NEW
                                                ZSENI'S SILENCE=VICTOLY!!!!! by CONGRATS! THE FAT BITCH SHUT UP! 07/23/2004, 10:48am PDT NEW
                                            Re: What is it about a man on a table that you find so attractive? by Choson 07/21/2004, 9:48pm PDT NEW
                                                You teetered on the edge of insanity by Broken PlayStation 07/22/2004, 12:59am PDT NEW
                                                    Re: You teetered on the edge of insanity by Choson 07/22/2004, 9:07am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: You teetered on the edge of insanity by Bill Dungsroman 07/22/2004, 1:06pm PDT NEW
                                                            Good point NT by Choson 07/22/2004, 1:28pm PDT NEW
                                                            This whole thing aged weirdly. by You could say it's my hobby. 12/09/2018, 6:12pm PST NEW
                        Re: WAI WAI! by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 4:28pm PDT NEW
                            Re: WAI WAI! by Veronica 07/20/2004, 10:24pm PDT NEW
                                Re: WAI WAI! by I need clarification 07/21/2004, 1:35am PDT NEW
                I was Roue of Light in that thread, now that it means nothing. by conflictNo 07/20/2004, 9:23pm PDT NEW
            Re: WAI WAI! by Bill Dungsroman 07/20/2004, 2:16pm PDT NEW
                Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by Hobo 07/20/2004, 5:22pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by Broken PlayStation 07/20/2004, 5:31pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 5:49pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by Hobo 07/20/2004, 5:52pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by Jay Schilling 07/20/2004, 5:55pm PDT NEW
                                Kupo by Edward Gibbons 07/20/2004, 5:57pm PDT NEW
                                    Congrats on the first NT-missing post NT by NT 07/20/2004, 6:03pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 6:03pm PDT NEW
                                It's okay, SB's gone and that's all that really matters. by Hobo 07/20/2004, 6:05pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: It's okay, SB's gone and that's all that really matters. by I need clarification 07/20/2004, 6:37pm PDT NEW
                                        No, actually, it's not all that matters. by Zseni 07/20/2004, 6:51pm PDT NEW
                                            Jealous NT by Gene Loves Jezebel 07/20/2004, 7:13pm PDT NEW
                                        LOGINS PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE by I need clarification 07/21/2004, 1:51am PDT NEW
                                    Or did UMBERTO get fucked NT by V 07/20/2004, 6:38pm PDT NEW
                                        I think that's what he just said. Are you stupid? NT by I need clarification 07/21/2004, 1:43am PDT NEW
                                            Or just BIPOLAR to see me? 8) NT by Creexul :( 07/21/2004, 1:44am PDT NEW
                            Re: Caltrops is Dead, Long Live Caltrops by Bill Dungsroman 07/20/2004, 7:31pm PDT NEW
                                Minor Clarification by creativepig 07/20/2004, 8:24pm PDT NEW
                                    Addendum to Clarification: You also fucked Veronica. NT by roophie 07/21/2004, 7:13am PDT NEW
                                        Who loved it. NT by Creexul :( 07/21/2004, 8:04am PDT NEW
 
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