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Lizard_King wrote:
fag packet wrote:
War is the attempted conquering of a nation, a people, an area of land. The war is over when the thing no longer has power to resist. Terror is not a thing, it is a tactic. Al Quaeda might be the current MVP in the terror Little League, but any aspiring terrorist could study its tactics and emulate them. As long as the tactic is effective and possible it will be used. A war on terror is like a war on the tank rush in RA2.
To win the War on Terror would require that terror could no longer occur, either by removing the will to commit terrorism or removing the means. Saying, as Rummy did, 'after the war on terrorism is won, the will to commit acts of terror and the means of carrying them out will continue to exist', goes beyond meaningless into sko Baudrillardesque Disneyworld.
You deluded shit-spouting pederast.
fgpckt
1. There is a difference between how a government packages things as (ie War on Terror) and what they are actually intending to do with their policies (ie Kill a sufficient number of terror providers to keep the supply of anti-american attack to a low hum). Inability to distinguish the two makes you a either an opponent of said policy unable to argue his case without creating straw men or an idiot. Pick one.
Yes. Using the example of our straw men proves you need straw men to make your argument, idiots!!
Also:
1. "Kill a sufficient number of terror providers to keep the supply of anti-american attack to a low hum" is the most self-contradictory statement in the history of the Bush II administration, which is saying something. The fact you can write something like that without any evidence of irony or even self-awareness indicates you not only buy Rumsfeld's drivel whole cloth, you have trouble formulating opinions during the respite between White House talking points releases.
Lizard_King wrote:
2. You can drown in theoretical "we will never be 100% rid of x no matter what we do" for as long as you wish. You have that luxury, as someone who is not responsible for a nation's foreign policy and thus requires results. But to pretend your rhetorical masturbation has any place in a serious analysis of decision making is absolutely ridiculous.
Have a nice day.
Wait a minute. Because Rumsfeld was appointed by an unelected president means his cracked vision of American foreign policy (invade! invade! invade!) is more legitimate than anyone else's? Get the fuck out of my country, fag. I'm talking about you, Lizard_King. If you're willing to subject your life and everyone else's to the whim of these idiots, that's your prerogative. But trying to win an argument you've already helped yourself lose by saying only those in charge get a say in how things are done goes against everything this country stands for, and I won't have traitorous bastards in this country. At least not in shackles. Please escort yourself to the nearest border or coast and keep walking.
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War on Terror may create World of Terror says Rumsfeld. by Fussbett 05/24/2003, 1:20pm PDT 
Re: War on Terror may create World of Terror says Rumsfeld. by Mh 05/24/2003, 6:40pm PDT 
I thought we got rid of terror when we invaded Iraq! NT by The Ironic One 05/24/2003, 6:53pm PDT 
One day this war on terror is going to end :( NT by Col. Kilgore 05/24/2003, 8:43pm PDT 
Re: War on Terror may create World of Terror says Rumsfeld. by Lizard_King 05/25/2003, 3:28pm PDT 
I'll keep this simple by fag packet 05/26/2003, 3:08am PDT 
Re: I'll keep this simple by fag packet 05/26/2003, 3:18am PDT 
Terrorism won when we declared the war on it and passed the Patriot Act by Senor Barborito 05/26/2003, 4:48pm PDT 
Example by Senor Barborito 05/26/2003, 8:41pm PDT 
Re: Example by Jhoh Creexul 05/26/2003, 10:22pm PDT 
Re: Terrorism won when we declared the war on it and passed the Patriot Act by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 3:10am PDT 
I'll grant the first, actually, but not the second by Senor Barborito 05/27/2003, 6:50am PDT 
Re: I'll grant the first, actually, but not the second by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 8:45pm PDT 
Re: I'll keep this simple by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 3:03am PDT 
Re: I'll keep this simple by I need clarification 05/27/2003, 3:50am PDT 
Holy fuck I agree with you and Fussbett both?! NT by Senor Barborito 05/27/2003, 6:57am PDT 
I'll keep this extra simple for INC's sake. by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 8:32pm PDT 
EVERYTHING you say is exceedingly simple, moron. It's in your DNA. by I need clarification 05/27/2003, 9:25pm PDT 
Re: EVERYTHING you say is exceedingly simple, moron. It's in your DNA. by Lizard_King 05/28/2003, 2:18am PDT 
Just a nit... by Chairman Mao 05/28/2003, 2:25am PDT 
Re: Just a nit... by foogla 05/28/2003, 3:23am PDT 
Re: Just a nit... by Lizard_King 05/28/2003, 6:10pm PDT 
Yeah I thought you'd say something like that. NT by Chairman Mao 05/28/2003, 6:31pm PDT 
You're (still) boring by I need clarification 05/29/2003, 3:35am PDT 
Re: You're (still) boring by Lizard_King 05/30/2003, 1:16pm PDT 
Jesus, you're fucking predictable. And boring. by Satire 05/30/2003, 2:19pm PDT 
Doh! I mean NT by I need clarification 05/30/2003, 5:46pm PDT 
Thanks NT by I need clarification 05/30/2003, 6:18pm PDT 
Re: Jesus, you're fucking predictable. And boring. by Lizard_King 05/30/2003, 11:15pm PDT 
I win!! You ARE boring! by I need clarification 05/31/2003, 2:00am PDT 
You fucking idiot. by Lizard_King 05/31/2003, 1:31pm PDT 
Re: You fucking idiot. by foogla 05/31/2003, 3:10pm PDT 
Re: You fucking idiot. by Lizard_King 05/31/2003, 11:48pm PDT 
I need smileys by foogla 06/01/2003, 6:15am PDT 
fixed last quote by foogla 06/01/2003, 6:16am PDT 
Re: fixed last quote by Lizard_King 06/01/2003, 12:11pm PDT 
Re: fixed last quote by foogla 06/01/2003, 2:57pm PDT 
Man, you really stick to the playbook, don't you? by I need clarification 05/31/2003, 5:51pm PDT 
As usual, your "arguments" are disappointing and trite. by Lizard_King 05/31/2003, 11:38pm PDT 
fucked up the quotes above. NT by Lizard_King 05/31/2003, 11:39pm PDT 
Fucked up the argument above as well. HA! by I need clarification 06/01/2003, 2:34am PDT 
Pitiful. Your posts are just getting worse. by Lizard_King 06/01/2003, 12:00pm PDT 
Re: Pitiful. Your posts are just getting worse. by fag packet 06/01/2003, 9:11pm PDT 
Unfortunately by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 12:12am PDT 
Re: Pitiful. Your posts are just getting worse. by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 10:25pm PDT 
Deep sigh by fag packet 06/03/2003, 3:36am PDT 
Well, I'm glad we cleared at least part of that up. by Lizard_King 06/03/2003, 2:57pm PDT 
You have ONE unheard messages. To hear new messages, click here. by I need clarification 06/01/2003, 11:31pm PDT 
Re: You have ONE unheard messages. To hear new messages, click here. by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 10:14pm PDT 
Mind if I chime in here? by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 10:28pm PDT 
Re: Mind if I chime in here? by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 11:30pm PDT 
Re: You have ONE unheard messages. To hear new messages, click here. by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 10:26pm PDT 
Re: I'll keep this simple by Fussbett 05/27/2003, 4:18am PDT 
What a pouty child you are by Diotallevi 05/27/2003, 7:39pm PDT 
Thanks for addressing that portion so effectively. NT by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 8:46pm PDT 
...and thank YOU for reponding to yourself. NT by Nick Detective... still holding out 05/27/2003, 8:54pm PDT 
Fag. Keep trying, though. NT by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 9:08pm PDT 
Dear Cocksucker by fag packet 05/28/2003, 9:13pm PDT 
Dear Shit Drinker by Lizard_King 05/30/2003, 1:21pm PDT 
Re: Dear Shit Drinker by John Ashcroft 05/30/2003, 1:45pm PDT 
"Enterprize"? OMFG clever RFOFLOFL NT by Excited commie shitheads everywhere 05/30/2003, 11:18pm PDT 
We Are No More. by Higher Standards 05/31/2003, 3:25am PDT 
And, cunt - by fag packet 05/28/2003, 9:38pm PDT 
Dio you rule by Steve Lollerson 2 06/04/2003, 11:26am PDT 
Re: War on Terror may create World of Terror says Rumsfeld. by foogla 05/27/2003, 6:56am PDT 
U.S. to Planet: Suck our collective dick. by Moab 05/27/2003, 8:04am PDT 
So by Senor Barborito 05/27/2003, 8:12am PDT 
Re: So by Moab 05/27/2003, 8:23am PDT 
Switzerland? We could be like the Von Trapp family with more dicksucking! by Senor Barborito 05/27/2003, 8:32am PDT 
Ok, I give up. NT by NT Helper 05/27/2003, 9:32am PDT 
You realize I'm trolling you at this point, right? by Senor Barborito 05/27/2003, 9:35am PDT 
That's why I gave up. by NT Helper 05/27/2003, 9:39am PDT 
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