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by Ray of Light 03/17/2006, 8:15am PST |
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It's pretty long; the gist is that it's provably impossible for you to hold a correct opinion on this or any matter.
INC: Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that allows anyone to contribute articles, is tightening its rules for submitting entries following the disclosure that it ran a piece falsely implicating a man in the Kennedy assassinations. Ray: haha INC: Seigenthaler, a former newspaper editor at the Tennessean in Nashville, Tenn., and founder of the Freedom Forum First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University, said that following his op-ed piece in USA Today the biography of him was changed to remove the false accusations.
INC: "What we're hopeful to see is that by slowing that down to 1,500 a day from several thousand, the people who are monitoring this will have more ability to improve the quality," Wales said Monday. INC: (Jimmy Wales, founder of wikipedia) INC: I like that his press release demonstrates the suspect grammar that has become the hallmark of wikipedia INC: so that's wikipedia's inauspicious debut in the mainstream, non-Wired press Ray: status of blind faith in a group of pinhead editors: unwavered INC: yeah, we're sure we can make this work! INC: he probably killed JFK anyway! INC: on this discussion page about that article, someone asks whether doing a print version of wikipedia is a good idea, considering what they almost printed about this Seigenthaler guy INC: their response: INC: Ted, the print/CD/DVD version of Wikipedia, which is known as "Version 1.0", is to be painstakingly verified for this kind of thing before it's ever released. Ray: Translation: STFU FAG (NT) INC: also: OF COURSE we will fact-check when it can get us sued INC: otherwise, we're sure the Internet will take care of itself INC: "Why was this featured in the news? Anyway, I read the article by Mr. Seigenthaler... if he was offended, he or any one who knew him in depth should have reverted the changes or contacted an admin. It was just by chance that no one caught the mistake for that long. It's his loss if he thinks Wikipedia is a joke; the "millions" others mentioned in his article would vehemently disagree." INC: this guy doesn't understand that he just described the whole problem with wikipedia
INC: haha wikipedia continues its non-sequitor wars INC: ways INC: A self-taught engineer, he took ditch-digging work in San Pedro with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and eventually became head of that agency. Few positions in local government have had such an effect on the fate of a metropolis—Los Angeles is a chapparal-covered desert that was transformed by sprinklers, pipes and Mulholland's public waterworks. Mulholland kept offices on the top floor of Sid Grauman's Million-Dollar Theatre on Broadway, a space now restored and occupied by actor Nicolas Cage. INC: Blue was his favorite color and he frequently wore spats. He shot a man to death in 1915, and his wife's name was Eunice INC: (that was me) INC: This is how they wrap up their entry on Mulholland: INC: The legendary Los Angeles road, Mulholland Drive—perhaps second only in L.A. street fame to Sunset Boulevard—is named in his honor. Mulholland died in 1935 and is buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery in Glendale, California.
In the 90's, the artist Frank Black recorded two songs, "Olè Mulholland" (from Teenager of the Year) and "St Francis Dam Disaster" (from Dog in the Sand) about the life and works of Mulholland.
Mulholland was the favorite to become mayor of L.A. but when asked if he was considering it he replied "I'd rather give birth to a porcupine". INC: christ Ray: I've read about that Dam disaster INC: wikipedia is horrible INC: put it to sleep already
INC: from Wikipedia: INC: The Ramones have proven hugely influential, mostly on later musicians. Ray: haha Ray: thanks Wiki
INC: my point is if you want to know everything there is to know about Star Trek (and don't care which series or character is "better"), it might be a good place to start Ray: I forget if that article talks about it, but there are all kinds of crazy axe-grinders, like a band of schemers who want to pretend they are descendants of an extinct Native tribe INC: but if you're looking for a nuanced history of the Vietnam War, well, you might find it a bit lacking Ray: So someone will write a sensible article about that, then these guys come along and insert their take INC: haha INC: yeah, the trouble with Wikipedia is that it's on the Internet INC: I think that sums it up Ray: that was in a k5 post, actually. Some guy complains about this ("I'd correct it, but tomorrow it will be edited back to crap") and 5 wikipedians admonish him for not getting involved INC: K5? Ray: kuro5hin.org Ray: Don't read it, I don't INC: yeah, skipped INC: Her nickname as a youth—Lady Jane—was one she reportedly disliked. She traveled to Communist Russia in 1964 and was impressed by the people, who welcomed her warmly as Henry's daughter. In the mid-1960s she bought a farm outside of Paris, had it renovated and personally started a garden. She visited Andy Warhol's Factory in 1966. About her 1971 Oscar win, her father Henry said: "How in hell would you like to have been in this business as long as I and have one of your kids win an Oscar before you do?" Jane was on the cover of Life magazine, March 29, 1968. INC: haha INC: yeah, wikipedia is eating itself, because I'm sure all rational people have abandoned it Ray: Since the devaluing of expertise is embedded in the content mechanism Ray: you could write a nice 1000-word article on something you know about, it would take a day or whatever, Ray: and then a bunch of idiots will iteratively "improve" it into shit INC: there's simply too many of them Ray: Here's Britannica's honco burning them down www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/27/wikipedia_britannica_and_linux/
BONUS! Cartoon from asciiartfarts.com.
( ) ( ) ( THIS STEAMING PILE OF SHIT IS MY TRIBUTE TO WIKIPEDIANS ) _ ) EVERYWHERE !!!!! KEEP UP THE HARD WORK MAKING UNRELIABLE, ( \_ FADDISH, NEEDLESSLY CONTROVERSIAL, NON-FACT-CHECKED TURDS _(_\ \)__ (____\___)) TO WIKIPEDIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR AS I CALL THEM WIKIPEDOS
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Quit changing Wikipedia by Cutter 03/16/2006, 9:24pm PST 
Fuck you by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/16/2006, 9:31pm PST 
Re: Quit changing Wikipedia by Jerry Whorebach 03/17/2006, 2:48am PST 
Re: Quit changing Wikipedia by Gid Tanner 03/21/2006, 2:52pm PST 
No. by Jerry Whorebach 03/22/2006, 9:41pm PST 
Re: No. by Gid Tanner 03/24/2006, 4:21pm PST 
I framed his whore-bitch-uary and hung it on my wall (of queers, now). by Jerry Whorebach 03/24/2006, 6:01pm PST 
Hey, the best thread of all time got bumped. by Gid Tanner 05/31/2006, 12:55pm PDT 
LINKS ARE RUINING OUR PRECIOUS SUPPLY OF INTERNETS NT by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 7:02am PST 
"It's clear we don't want you there" NT by ...declared THE KING OF THE WIKI! 03/17/2006, 7:39am PST 
Here is a REAL internet link. by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 8:05am PST 
This link on the front page. by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 8:09am PST 
PS: judging by your wikipedia entries, you are buttfucking faggots. NT by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 8:13am PST 
here's an AIM log that speaks poorly of you by Ray of Light 03/17/2006, 8:15am PST 
Official discussion page archive. by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 8:48am PST 
Please reply more NT by Entropy Stew 03/17/2006, 10:13am PST 
They already deleted the posts. by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 1:18pm PST 
Re: They already deleted the posts. by Golbez 03/17/2006, 4:16pm PST 
DURRR NT by Entropy Stew 03/17/2006, 4:16pm PST 
All of your posts should be deleted, retard. NT by Duh Gay Ball Bruddas 03/17/2006, 5:40pm PST 
Golbez really is a mod for the ages by Fussbett 03/17/2006, 6:40pm PST 
Re: Golbez really is a mod for the ages by Fussbett 03/18/2006, 10:26am PST 
Re: Official discussion page archive. by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 4:43pm PST 
"Clear up your issues here, kids" by Shredder 03/17/2006, 9:17am PST 
Hell, I even have girlfriends who have called me "Golbie." So there. by Golbez 03/17/2006, 10:18am PST 
Let's talk about this Golbez guy for a few minutes, okay? by I need clarification 03/17/2006, 2:55pm PST 
NO MERCY FOR VANDALS!!!!! NT by mark 03/17/2006, 3:04pm PST 
Re: Let's talk about this Golbez guy for a few minutes, okay? by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 4:46pm PST 
Re: Let's talk about this Golbez guy for a few minutes, okay? by Entropy Stew 03/17/2006, 6:03pm PST 
Golbez has been overuled. by Worm 03/20/2006, 4:19am PST 
Re: Golbez has been overuled. by I need clarification 03/20/2006, 10:02am PST 
Advanced TI-BASIC and he raised $321,350 for wiki? by Worm 03/20/2006, 11:46am PST 
Wikipedia serves more of a purpose than this shithole. NT by Internet User 03/18/2006, 10:24am PST 
If you said that on Wikipedia, it would be reverted and you'd be banned. NT by Fussbett 03/18/2006, 10:27am PST 
That's how they like it because you see they worked very hard to make admin and NT by Creexul :( 03/18/2006, 11:40am PST 
Another scintillating insight from the fucking retard. NT by Duh Gay Ball Bruddas 03/18/2006, 5:37pm PST 
Oh wow, I changed my mind! CALTROPS IS GREAT! :D NT by Internet User! 03/18/2006, 2:32pm PST 
Great sarcasm. You point: made. NT by Fussbett 03/18/2006, 3:08pm PST 
My favorite thing that you have written. by mark 03/17/2006, 10:17am PST 
Golbez :( by I need clarification 03/17/2006, 11:10am PST 
Golbez, self-appointed archivist of OMM, shuts down discussion by Shredder 03/17/2006, 1:48pm PST 
Re: Golbez, self-appointed archivist of OMM, shuts down discussion by Creexul :( 03/17/2006, 2:24pm PST 
wiki "Caltrop" entry leads to... by Ray of Light 03/17/2006, 3:29pm PST 
also by Ray of Light 03/17/2006, 3:54pm PST 
Re: wiki "Caltrop" entry leads to... by Jerry Whorebach 03/17/2006, 6:44pm PST 
So, in fact, they should be called "toblerone trails" and not lines? by mark 03/17/2006, 7:14pm PST 
I feel better about putting "Duct Tape n. Rape Device" in the duct tape entry. NT by Worm 03/17/2006, 5:27pm PST 
I wish Golbez would delete that post NT by Entropy Stew 03/17/2006, 6:04pm PST 
What made you so mean? NT by Worm 03/18/2006, 1:59am PST 
The retards. NT by Duh Gay Ball Bruddas 03/18/2006, 5:36pm PST 
So we win basically. NT by Creexul :( 03/19/2006, 12:33pm PST 
You're retarded. "Basically" is the only way you can win. NT by Duh Gay Ball Bruddas 03/19/2006, 4:08pm PST 
I learned it by watching YOU by Entropy Stew 03/22/2006, 7:15pm PST 
I was curious if "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" was based on someone by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 03/18/2006, 11:27pm PST 
Nice of Chet to "give us code" so we could make our forum just like the by shitty forums of yore 03/21/2006, 12:49am PST 
Replied to it by Entropy Stew 03/21/2006, 11:21am PST 
Wromg ruined it. NT by Wikipedo 03/22/2006, 6:36pm PST 
The post from Monday that I edited? Or my reverted attempt to tab his his reply? NT by Worm 03/22/2006, 7:19pm PST 
Attempting to tab him like a motherfucker. by Worm 03/22/2006, 7:33pm PST 
Reflection: Should have used indent. NT by Worm 03/22/2006, 7:34pm PST 
Oh, it wouldn't have fit. by Worm 03/22/2006, 7:38pm PST 
Re: Reflection: Bigger Problems by Bunyip 03/22/2006, 7:38pm PST 
Fuck by Worm 03/22/2006, 7:45pm PST 
How does the nick, "Moretarded," strike you? NT by Wikipedo 03/22/2006, 7:49pm PST 
Drop the "ed" and I'll think about it. NT by Worm 03/22/2006, 8:03pm PST 
Holy shit, I was just about to do a post about you in WHERE IN THE WORLD. NT by Fussbett 03/22/2006, 8:25pm PST 
I'm in Australia. :( by Bunyip 03/22/2006, 9:03pm PST 
#1 reason I hate wikipedia: Worm editing my post NT by Entropy Stew 03/22/2006, 7:43pm PST 
wrom in a nutshell. NT by Creexul :( 03/22/2006, 8:14pm PST 
GET ME OUTTA HERE NT by Worm in a nutshell 03/22/2006, 8:16pm PST 
FACT: Wikipedia is horrible by Entropy Stew 03/22/2006, 7:37pm PST 
How it all ended by Quentin Beck 05/30/2006, 1:45am PDT 
what a sad little fag NT by Someone Vaguely Mean 05/30/2006, 9:02am PDT 
Please respond to the sad little faggot by A lurker 08/04/2006, 9:15am PDT 
Re: Please respond to the sad little baby by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/04/2006, 11:49am PDT 
I think that was Chet by Mischief no-POE-account-no-posting 08/04/2006, 5:55pm PDT 
Re: Please respond to the sad little faggot by Creexul :( 08/04/2006, 6:04pm PDT 
Good news though we finally know what wikipedia is for. by Creexul :( 08/04/2006, 6:31pm PDT 
They sad little men, yo. NT by laudablepuss 08/04/2006, 6:34pm PDT 
As someone who is both little and sad, that ain't good. NT by Creexul :( 08/04/2006, 10:08pm PDT 
Re: Good news though we finally know what wikipedia is for. by Souffle of Pain 08/05/2006, 1:45am PDT 
The best thing I can do here is archive comments. 8( by Creexul :( 08/04/2006, 10:34pm PDT 
Or you could just click on the "History" link at the top of the talk page NT by Quentin Beck 08/04/2006, 11:13pm PDT 
And then click through a billion links to find all the comments. :( NT by Creexul :( 08/05/2006, 12:23am PDT 
Someone changed wikipedia. by Creexul :( 08/05/2006, 12:39am PDT 
Erik was traumatized by life :( NT by Jerry Whorebach 08/05/2006, 1:05am PDT 
Front page this NT by Entropy Stew 08/05/2006, 1:57am PDT 
Archived for posterity. by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/09/2007, 12:13pm PDT 
Re: Please respond to the sad little faggot by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/10/2006, 4:30am PDT 
The king of Wikipedia by Falvio 08/05/2006, 6:12pm PDT 
Re: The king of Wikipedia by Jerry Whorebach 08/05/2006, 8:14pm PDT 
My new favorite Wiki entry. by Jerry Whorebach 09/06/2006, 3:47pm PDT 
I feel far too much pride over... by Quentin Beck 09/06/2006, 9:40pm PDT 
That is very impressive, Anonyfag, tell us more. NT by Mischief Maker 09/06/2006, 9:55pm PDT 
Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by Jerry Whorebach. 09/07/2006, 2:16pm PDT 
Re: Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/07/2006, 4:15pm PDT 
Re: Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by Flavio 09/07/2006, 4:39pm PDT 
Re: Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by laudablepuss 09/07/2006, 6:16pm PDT 
Re: Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by Mischief Maker 09/07/2006, 7:11pm PDT 
Re: Reads like a sixth grade blackboard after a brainstorming session. by motherfuckerfoodeater 09/07/2006, 9:31pm PDT 
I have implemented your changes by Quentin Beck 09/08/2006, 7:08pm PDT 
They removed it by Quentin Beck 09/09/2006, 4:58am PDT 
Wait NT by Quentin Beck 09/09/2006, 5:02am PDT 
Props to the guy who removed every link except 'blogosphere'. by Quentin Beck 09/09/2006, 11:52pm PDT 
Re: Props to the guy who removed every link except 'blogosphere'. by Creexul :( 09/10/2006, 2:18am PDT 
Re: They removed it by Ray of Light 11/07/2007, 3:35pm PST 
NP: Rage Against the Machine -- Know Your Enemy.mp3 by Fussbett 11/07/2007, 3:51pm PST 
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