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Re: Two Lone Swordsmen - The Double Gone Chapel by curst 07/23/2004, 2:07pm PDT
Entropy Stew wrote:

I'm pretty much the opposite polarity here, apart from Amon Tobin. There's only one BoC track I like - Telephasic somethingorother, and the couple Manitoba tracks I've heard have sucked.


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BoC is too repetitive for me to fully embrace them, but on occasion the groove they stumble upon is so great that I don't even care. Overall, I like them in small doses. Cue rant.

You mentioned "Telephasic Workshop" - I think it's decent, certainly great for chilling out (the whole album is for me, really), but A: it doesn't have the beauty of some of their other tunes and B: it's one of their long songs. This is my major beef with BoC. With only one or maybe two exceptions, their longer songs are great for two minutes and then they start dragging. Badly.

"An Eagle In Your Mind" rocks my cock - for about two minutes. Then I'm bored. "Rue The Whirl" - likewise, yet it goes on for OVER SIX MINUTES. What the shit. And while I don't necessarily like the idea of establishing a mood for a song and then tearing it apart in an attempt to add variety to it, I would like to see the basic idea at least progress somewhat if you're going to stretch out a song for so long. "Rue The Whirl" doesn't change one bit for over four goddamn minutes, then the next two are filled with a bassline that screams out "poor man's A Tribe Called Quest" with a bunch of meaningless meandering noodling around with some quiet synth sound that doesn't even remotely resemble a melody, or a cool ambient background noise - it's almost no different from someone randomly hitting keys on a keyboard. This is supposed to be music?

Oh but right after I give up on that song and skip to the next track, "Aquarius" hits my ears with the perfect atmospheric sounds, perfect drum pattern, and perfect super-groovy guitars... I could listen to it for eternity. Here, I'm actually glad they don't mess around with the song very much, although it does have a (logical, subtle, great) shift in melody at around the 1/2way point. This song made me a permanent BoC fan no matter how many times they disappoint me.

Then there's stuff like "Open The Light" - that is a downright fantastic ambient song IMO. This extends to just about every brief "interlude" tracks they toss in between BoC's longer songs. Of all the longer songs besides "Aquarius", the only ones I think are very good no matter their length are "Child For Today" and "Dawn Chorus".

As far as Manitoba goes - I can only hope the songs you heard were the "Boards Of Canada-lite" tunes from "Start Breaking My Heart", and not anything from the supernova of awesome that is "Up In Flames" which as FoK will (correctly) tell you is maybe the best album ever made since ever.

I think the A/SP/AT group falls farther down the "fucked up shit" axis than the other three. The apex of Aphex's 54 Cymru Beats, for instance, sounds like a bench grinder eating a chainsaw that is trying to cut copper hex stock being milled in a CNC lathe by cybernetic rats with corrosive metal teeth.


So in other words it either blows goats or is the coolest mindfuck you'll ever get from a song, right? I love Aphex's ambient stuff, and I enjoy "Come To Daddy" on a "what the hell?" level. Yet I can't remember one song from every other album I've heard from him (not heard 54 Cymru Beats, not heard Druqks) that doesn't bore me. No, wait, a couple of songs had pretty perverse vocals, so I did laugh. That's it.

I will have to check out the Swordsmen.


YES. Again, "The Double Gone Chapel" is the only release I've heard by them. Maybe everything else will rub me wrong the way Autechre does, I don't know. And on the experimental crazy whacked shit scale, it ranks fairly low when compared to other Warp Records artists. But to quote every Amazon.com review of everything ever, "if you're sick of Britney and all that shit they play on MTV on the radio then BUY THIS NOW!!!" (Alternately, "this ain't your daddy's (insert genre here)!!!!")
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