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November 2005 by Ray of Light 06/26/2008, 9:10am PDT
How do I convert SHNs to MP3?
Whoa there, bucko. Before you do this, you need to make sure you are allowed to. Check the info file that came with the SHNs
(you downloaded the info file too, right?). Usually there is something in there prohibiting you from converting the SHNs to MP3 format. Even if there is no such statement in the info file, you really should not convert the SHNs to MP3, because of the loss of quality, and the fact that once MP3s of a show start to be created, it becomes more difficult to find original, non-mp3-sourced copies of the show. If you do create MP3s from the SHNs, you should never distribute them (don't share them on Napster!), and you should never, ever use your MP3s to create a music CD.

Ray: ... every time I think I've seen the gayest music-related idiocy there is, they think up something new to outflank me
because of the loss of quality, and the fact that once MP3s of a show start to be created, it becomes more difficult to find original, non-mp3-sourced copies of the show.

Fussbett: That's the funniest part.
Fussbett: Compressing media? IF YOU'RE STUPID, SURE.
Ray: yeah, you're ruining it for others
Ray: note that the SHN format is "not designed to be listened to"
Ray: to these people, that's an ancillary function, something you might hire someone else to do
Ray: the paste is from here www.u2shn.com/shnfaq.php , after I downloaded an album from oink [RIP OINK!!! --ray] and found it in this queer format
Ray: so you can't listen to it (BY DESIGN), you can't convert it to a listenable format (without hurting others), it's like pogs
Ray: good for trading and for taking up space
Fussbett: Anytime I see a FLAC album I run away sceraming as well
Ray: FLAC has its downsides, but at least there's a winamp plugin for it, and it's trivial to convert to mp3
Fussbett: I'm just pointing out that even that easier GIANT file format is shunned by me.
Ray: Look at this fucking goddamn installation guide etree.org/mkw.html#intro
Ray: "DO NOT click the "OK" button on the window below!!!"
Ray: " Before you install mkwACT program, you must first install the mkwACT Runtime Libraries, "
Ray: yeah, good that they're unbundled because I often like to install just (a nonworking) half of a program
Fussbett: Opensourcers and SBs do dumb shit like this.
Ray: Note that, out of the half dozen broken products that handle SHN, this one is considered the most mature and easiest to use
Fussbett: "You may need to download a different application that uses this runtime... In that case, I'll make the pieces available separately."
Fussbett: "It's SIMPLE LOGIC"
Ray: "Based on a FANTASY"
Ray: but yes, you can just picture him imagining a vast universe of third-party apps that use his stupid shn runtime. Media players, p2p apps, 3D shooters, Microsoft Powerpoint
Fussbett: Or more likely that he'll later make a second SHN app.
Fussbett: Which is equal fantasy, of course.
Ray: That, and that the six people who download it will be thankful to have saved redownloading the 500k runtime
Ray: Because lossless music file sharers are mostly on dialup
Fussbett: I was also going to ask why the app even had an awkward name.
Ray: don't!
Fussbett: Then I see it's named after him, Michael K Weiss.
Ray: Before shn, which he also invented, there was the mkw format
Ray: really! This was the kind of thing I was forced to learn while searching for a way to listen to them
Fussbett: He fancies himself the next Phil Katz.
Fussbett: Except Phil made something indispensible.
Ray: Yeah, this guy jumped straight to obscurity
Fussbett: Phil Katz also was a severe alcoholic who spent all of his time in strip clubs.
Fussbett: So he's all-around pretty awesome.
Ray: The analogy would be better if pkzip came out two years after winzip and needed a dedicated machine to run and cost $99
Ray: If I hit it rich on shareware, I'd live in a strip club too
Ray: It just seems so fitting, get money for nothing, then waste it
Fussbett: And by "waste", you mean "use it to have maximum fun"
Ray: Yeah, maybe "spend at maximum rate" is a better term than waste
Fussbett: Especially with his rapid declining health, it's the perfect way to live.
Ray: It's more or less the plot of Leaving Las Vegas, except that he can't touch her genitals or take out his cock
Fussbett: I assume that "millionaire, living in a strip club" means a lot more action than just putting dollars in the g-strings.
Fussbett: You're supposed to not get blow and hand jobs in the strip clubs either, but..
Fussbett: www.esva.net/~thom/arczip.wmv
Fussbett: Hilariously depressing!
Fussbett: (20 minute documentary on ARC versus ZIP war)
Fussbett: Thom Henderson of SEA is wearing a backpack for his interview.
Fussbett: Perhaps it has emergency "get home" survival gear inside.
Fussbett: Later on, he cries.
Fussbett: "it was a hate mail campaign"
Ray: later, zip gets submarined by ARJ in much the same way
Ray: I remember it came with a recursive zip2arj converter for sysops to run
Fussbett: Well PK started by ripping off ARC with PKARC, stealing the code, so it was a bit more nefarious.
Ray: ohh yeah.
Fussbett: Rep. Jack Spratt (D-S.C.).
Fussbett: You've got to be joking.
Ray: that was probably his campaign slogan
Ray: Katz is dead??
Fussbett: Yeah, his pancrease burst or whatever happens to your pancrease when you live on alcohol and lapdances.
Fussbett: Am I even spelling pancrease right? Jesus Christ
Fussbett: pancreas
Ray: you were thinking of "pantcrease"
Fussbett: Also Pancrase
Fussbett: www.pancrase.co.jp/
Ray: the big guy on the couch never stops moving his leg
Ray: I read somewhere that that's a placebo for masturbation
Fussbett: RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME?!?!
Fussbett: I bounce my knee constantly. :(
Fussbett: www.rls.org
Ray: WOAH
Ray: sometimes my leg jumps when I'm falling asleep
Ray: but then, it sometimes falls asleep when I'm at my desk
Fussbett: That's dreaming.
Fussbett: Your brain hasn't paralysed your body yet.
Ray: so I can't characterize it as restless. Only "nonconformant"
Fussbett: Yeah, it doesn't follow directions.
Fussbett: I get that pretty commonly. Just innocuous thoughts like catching a baseball -- but my body reacts and I wake up.
Ray: yeah, then I'm pissed because it means i was falling asleep really fast
Ray: that I pushed the envelope too far
Ray: Vern Buerg, I remember that name
Ray: from list.com [list.com was one of the first dot-coms --ray]
Ray: I just got to the part where he cries
Ray: "people would write letters to say how much they hated me... people who never met me and never would (SOB)"
Ray: this had to have been filmed before the internet
Ray: back when being hated by people you didn't know was still special
Ray: for some reason, you can still purchase list.com, a dos-based shareware file viewer, which inexplicably includes a 170-page manual
Fussbett: haha
* includes:
o 170 page manual on disk with tutorial
o Free upgrades for one year
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS for LIST Plus & LIST Enhanced:
* Dos 2.1 or higher
* IBM PC, XT, AT, PS2 or compatible
* RAM - 80K LIST Plus, 128K LIST Enhanced
* Disk Space - 30K LIST Plus, 40K LIST Enhanced
* Mouse Support (Optional)
Ray: "Please choose a drive to install LIST Plus to: [ C: (30K required, 307987328755K available) _]"
Fussbett: Psh, I bet there's no uninstall option.
Fussbett: I'm going to write FSLIST
Ray: Select installation options: _ Core Program (30K) _ Uninstaller (6MB)
Ray: [15:28:35] *** "mrk" signed off at Thu Nov 17 15:28:35 2005.
*** "mrk" signed on at Thu Nov 17 19:52:00 2005.
*** "mrk" signed off at Thu Nov 17 20:36:41 2005.
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*** "mrk" signed on at Sat Nov 19 15:07:43 2005.
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Ray: trying to send an AIM to mark is like some kind of sniping exercise
Fussbett: haha
Ray: he made a comment on Thursday, I have this great reply all chambered and now I'm just waiting for my quarry to appear
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