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by bombMexico 02/14/2009, 11:56am PST |
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I had heard fat people tip poorly (not associating with any i wouldn't know myself of course) in general. Is this skinny propaganda or are you on a quest to turn back the clock on the weight ratio to tipping stereotype?
MY GUESS - it's nothing personal, they just spend all their money on food and nothings left over
Working at Starbucks looks like its as hectic as waiting tables but without being able to go into a kitchen and call the customer a cunt so they have to be "on" the whole time. I'm agreeing with you tho, if i'm not impressing anyone who'll remember me WHY BOTHER but it looks like you're running on a moral superiority ticket. Good manners, civic society or something?
Zsenitan wrote:
Tipping is a complex social interaction! I don't know what you're up to here in America, but remember the following basic rules:
1. 15% is a minimum tip, even on pizza. Why? Because life is already hard so why not do nice things for people working jobs that you never would because they are so shitty. With that said:
2. Always tip well (20% or more) anywhere that you plan to go often except:
3. Starbucks. Never tip there! Nobody is going to remember your ass.
4. The first wait-too-long-for-service is free. After that, drop the tip.
You're a visitor so Karmic Tip Accrual is unlikely to happen for you, but for anyone who, you know, lives in an area it is usually worth the extra buck or two to get remembered as a nice guy. Waitstaff will go out of their way for you and make you look like a big shot and accommodate your wacky requests. Another important and frequently overlooked tool is the comment card: leave GOOD comments, with your server's name on them. Also, if you feel like your waiter is or could start being a douche, ask for a comment card ASAP. It is the velvet glove of threatening the help!
On a similar principle of bartender gambling, gracious tipping will pay off in the long run with free treats, no table waits, and good treatment when it matters most (i.e. dining out with clients/bosses/dates/other people you need to impress.) You will get invited to parties, given tickets to all kinds of fun events, and when you are in the market for cars or skilled tradesmen or places to live, your waiter friends are a rich source of hookups. The power of being a well-liked regular is not inconsequential.
As a visitor, yeah you could stiff everyone but I'm not sure why you would other than the juvenile satisfaction that you got one over on someone paid below the minimum wage. I can't understand the freaky skinflinty shit going on up above, but then I can't imagine being in a position to eat out, yet not in a position to eat out if it costs 15% more. One might ask, "Zseni, what are you GETTING for that 15%?" I am getting to be a person with good manners in a society where it is not yet necessary to legislate things which should be the province of politeness. Consider it civic duty if simple compassion doesn't move you. |
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Preparing first visit to U.S - how seriously do you take this tipping bullshit? by Really, how much? 02/12/2009, 10:54pm PST 
anyone reminded of the part in american psycho with willem defoe? by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/13/2009, 1:04am PST 
I'm not an expert on tipping but here are my experiences. by bink 02/13/2009, 1:06am PST 
How foreign are you? by Vested Id 02/13/2009, 1:31am PST 
Re: How foreign are you? by Really, how much? 02/13/2009, 6:07am PST 
Re: How foreign are you? by Wacky Willy 02/13/2009, 6:18am PST 
If money is that much of a concern I would say don't tip at all. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 7:30am PST 
This is where vague language backfires. :( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 7:38am PST 
Bar tipping roulette by Last 02/13/2009, 8:31am PST 
Bar Etiquette as told by a Bartender by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 1:45pm PST 
A lot of bartenders are doucehbags. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 1:47pm PST 
Some, I guess. by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 1:58pm PST 
GOOD SIR, DO YOU OFFER THE COLA OF COCA FOR PURCHASE TO REFRESH THINE PARCHED TH NT by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 02/13/2009, 2:39pm PST 
Re: Some, I guess. by laudablepuss 02/13/2009, 4:07pm PST 
Yes, also anyone else involved in a nightclub. by Last 02/13/2009, 2:53pm PST 
All bartenders and bouncers possess some degree of Joe Yance in them NT by FABIO 02/13/2009, 8:12pm PST 
I wasn't sure if that was for Bartenders or Lap Dancers NT by Wacky Willy 02/13/2009, 1:56pm PST 
Yes, you tip at bars. by Fussbett 02/13/2009, 8:55am PST 
I got riddled by hails of flame bullets on POE-News because I was undertipping. by Fullofkittens 02/13/2009, 9:46am PST 
POE:bartenders::Something Awful:Walmart cashiers NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 10:55am PST 
Nostalgia by Choson 02/13/2009, 11:14am PST 
the secret joy of drinking alone revealed NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/13/2009, 11:59pm PST 
You would puke your carbon monoxide polluted guts out after less than one beer NT by Fortinbras 02/14/2009, 2:01am PST 
fortinbrah is gonna back his car into our apartment I guess by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/14/2009, 3:07am PST 
he will try to run us over THROUGH the apartment but fail by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/14/2009, 3:27am PST 
SO YOU LIKE TO BREAK BONE HUH 8( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/14/2009, 4:10am PST 
(1) French (2) Woman (3) Bartender: The cunty trifecta! NT by Fussbett 02/15/2009, 6:31am PST 
Three strikes already, send that fucker to jail. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/15/2009, 6:55am PST 
It's 20% by Cannibal Dave 02/13/2009, 2:02pm PST 
What is your plan? To drive up tip inflation? by Last 02/13/2009, 3:10pm PST 
He does fall into the "foreign" category. NT by Proud American 02/13/2009, 3:53pm PST 
Forget that by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 4:47pm PST 
Maybe if you tipped more your life wouldn't sound like such a mess? NT by bombMexico 02/13/2009, 5:23pm PST 
I tip 10-15%? NT by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 9:16pm PST 
FUCKING NT by AIRHORN 02/13/2009, 8:10pm PST 
I'm not doing long division on less than 20$ to figure out 20% by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 9:35pm PST 
G = Grand, not Dollars. (20 D's is definitely something we should start saying) NT by Fussbett 02/13/2009, 10:01pm PST 
Sounds more like a very bizarre bra-size NT by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 10:03pm PST 
Or the sexiest 8-year-old ever! NT by Fussbett 02/14/2009, 12:30am PST 
Whelp, if the government wasn't monitoring Caltrops already, it certainly is now NT by Fortinbras 02/14/2009, 1:34am PST 
I tip well by Ray of Light 02/13/2009, 11:40pm PST 
More detail by Ray of Light 02/13/2009, 11:54pm PST 
What's your logic behind less of a base tip for the delivery guy? Just wondering by Fortinbras 02/14/2009, 2:40am PST 
Delivering < Waiting by Fussbett 02/14/2009, 2:52am PST 
Re: Delivering < Waiting by Fortinbras 02/14/2009, 4:34am PST 
Re: Delivering < Waiting by Fussbett 02/14/2009, 7:20am PST 
I had a bad experience with that. by bink 02/14/2009, 2:54am PST 
It's a higher guaranteed amount. The percentage only kicks in for huge orders. by Ray of Light 02/14/2009, 3:46am PST 
One time I accidentally put a ten or twenty into a pizza guy's tip. by Worm 02/14/2009, 9:00am PST 
That's a pretty bitch-ass move to call him back! NT by Fussbett 02/14/2009, 9:35am PST 
Re: That's a pretty bitch-ass move to call him back! by Wacky Willy 02/14/2009, 9:40am PST 
Uh, I just didn't want someone's balls on my pizza you dolt. by Worm 02/14/2009, 9:55am PST 
Re: Uh, I just didn't want someone's balls on my pizza you dolt. by Souffle of Pain 02/18/2009, 12:06am PST 
On stiffing: don't do that. by Fullofkittens 02/14/2009, 5:10am PST 
This post explains why FoK makes happy music NT by Fussbett 02/14/2009, 6:34am PST 
Stiffing: An argument for by bombMexico 02/14/2009, 12:12pm PST 
Re: On stiffing: don't do that. by Cannibal Dave 02/16/2009, 11:09am PST 
That gets me off the hook then. by Fortinbras 02/16/2009, 1:17pm PST 
Then do not travel, faggot. by Cannibal Dave 02/18/2009, 7:18am PST 
Fucking cry more, faggot. by Fortinbras 02/18/2009, 1:16pm PST 
I love how every online forum eventually has a debate about tipping NT by Choson 02/14/2009, 10:02am PST 
Here's QT3 on tipping, part XXIV by QT3 Reporter 11/24/2009, 2:13pm PST 
Financial Vampires NT by Mischief Maker 11/24/2009, 5:26pm PST 
the last time I even remember being involved in tipping by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/13/2009, 2:25am PST 
Re: the last time I even remember being involved in tipping by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 3:41am PST 
You don't have to tip whores at all, QB NT by Just The Tip 02/13/2009, 4:51am PST 
Go visit sunny Nevada for all your legal porking needs. NT by Fortinbras 02/13/2009, 10:46am PST 
Wait, QB's never held down a job, that can't be him! NT by Fortinbras 02/14/2009, 2:52am PST 
I was seriously thought this post maybe referred to cows. by laudablepuss 02/13/2009, 10:19am PST 
I ALSO think there's an extra verb in there I didn't need. NT by laudablepuss 02/13/2009, 10:22am PST 
You make a lot of posts related to proper sentence structure. NT by Are you an English teacher? 02/13/2009, 2:04pm PST 
no he isn't, and he officially has no excuse by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/13/2009, 2:18pm PST 
I'm emulating the twins, with the hope of annoying them. by laudablepuss 02/13/2009, 3:26pm PST 
Your effort made Jso fall asleepzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/13/2009, 3:48pm PST 
Positive feedback! AT LAST. NT by laudablepuss 02/13/2009, 3:51pm PST 
don't talk about your nuts in public NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/14/2009, 12:03am PST 
Shut-ins consider anonymous internet forums "in public", interesting. NT by Last 02/14/2009, 2:49pm PST 
Angry person trolled by MST3K reference interesting. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/14/2009, 2:58pm PST 
Did you know there's a whole forum on Qt3 just for these questions? NT by I have my suspicions 02/14/2009, 1:59am PST 
Ignore everyone in this thread; there's a reason they are posting instead of par by Zsenitan 02/14/2009, 4:23am PST 
on a completely UNRELATED NOTE by bombMexico 02/14/2009, 11:56am PST 
Actually, I am specifically pissed at Starbucks because they never hired me. NT by Zsenitan (and now they never will.) 02/14/2009, 1:01pm PST 
Where in Australia are you from so I can tease you? NT by Quétinbec 02/16/2009, 6:17pm PST 
Flight of the Conchords s02e05 is an entire episode of AUS bashing NT by Fussbett 02/17/2009, 9:48pm PST 
Jiff! Jiff! Race war Jiff! We've been pretty busy! NT by laudablepuss 02/17/2009, 10:36pm PST 
Yeah, but who watches that shit. What happened to this Australian guy? NT by Quétinbec 02/18/2009, 1:39am PST 
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