Debaser wrote:

I've heard three basic opinions on the subject:

1. It sucks.
2. It's pretty good with some expansion pack or after X number of patches.
3. Nah, it still sucks, go back to Civilization 2.

At a glance the game seems like Civ 2 without the stupid "I disagree, your excellency." Renfaire actors, but with the one thing I always thought these games desperately needed: national borders. Can someone explain, in 50 words or more:

1. Why the game sucks out of box.
2. Whether or not the patch fixes this and whether or not I'd need to purchase some sort of expansion pack.