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by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:44pm PDT |
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I got through the setup (a fresh Firefox profile did the trick, invoke as firefox.exe -profilemanager to see the dialog if you have it turned off like most people).
The ctf4 update is nothing short of inspired. They left the macro shape untouched, and tweaked barrier and item placement to cure degenerate overdefense. Incoming air offense will take less damage, but can no longer air control to land right atop the enemy flag, and rocket jumping out will be impeded the same way. 1v1 duels around the horseshoe are still awesome and still feel like a swordfight.
Weapon spawn and weapon switch times seem longer. I'm against this in principle but it's good for new players (and still faster than anything else you might play).
The engine retains some of the better bugs, e.g., the horizontal base-to-base jump on Space CTF / qzctf4 using the pads underneath the map is still doable, whereas the momentum penalty for getting your head stepped on as you exit a pad is either gone or reduced. The degenerate trickjumps seem fixed, but my tricking chops are not up to the task of proving it.
I have yet to see a server survive a map transition. The times that I stayed until the end, it was three minutes of shuffle votes and "TOO FEW PLAYERS READY" and then people trickle out and the match starts then two more people leave, and it's 4 versus 1 except there's no way to KNOW that without dying, which you aren't doing much of when it's 4 versus 1.
Speaking of maps, there is an order of magnitude too many. 1755 players (1% of total) have 10 hours of play, per id's ach stats. That's enough time to learn 5 or 10 maps, yet for some reason it comes with 40! A casual game made for casual gamers cannot count as a selling point one assfull of sprawling teleporty maps chock full of godlike powerups. That assfull counts as a liability. Here's the maps to keep:- The five CTF maps from the original
- One or perhaps two new CTF maps with TA powerups and weapons
- The Longest Yard
- A couple other TDM/FFA maps, all but one small and all but one from the original
It needs some post-release developer love (not an id strongpoint, historically!) but it's hard to beat free and fast and fun. I hope this is a runaway success.
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Quake Live by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 6:35pm PST 
FUCK YOU VALVE YOU LOST ME AS A CUSTOMER (GONE 2 QUAKE) NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 6:59pm PST 
You are in line, take a number (#13668) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:00pm PST 
The ultimate slow-off, 3Drealms already has the lead. NT by Worm 02/24/2009, 7:01pm PST 
Then you get spawn killed and go back to the end of the line by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:16pm PST 
My Scout update download and QL queue are racing NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:32pm PST 
Unfuckingbelievable - they held us in suspense just to announce the poll result? by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:39pm PST 
They also rolled out the patch NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:42pm PST 
Without the Double Payload map shown in that screenshot NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:45pm PST 
And Quake Live hates Google Chrome. NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:52pm PST 
I got to play one full match, now Punkbuster kicks me after less than a minute NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:59pm PST 
"Server Disconnected - Punkbuster kicked player 'Fortinbras' (for 0 minutes) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 10:50pm PST 
File a bug? by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:55pm PST 
I got your bug report right here! by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 5:06pm PST 
Update: Fixed on Firefox by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:17pm PST 
A video explaining how to play deathmatch. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/24/2009, 8:38pm PST 
this is the paradigm shift that fps games have been needing since HL2/Crysis NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:43pm PST 
yay I was 75th in line waiting for the game to let me in o boy can't wait by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:48pm PST 
email finally showed up, I click the automatic link, now I'm 1754 in line by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:50pm PST 
Gimme your usernames NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:21pm PST 
Fuck you NT by Utvgfdpx 02/24/2009, 9:26pm PST 
Whoa, the spam is getting hostile! NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:57pm PST 
This queue thing is fucking embarassing. 24 hours of epic fuckups. by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 2:51pm PST 
It went into open beta without a player limit by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:58pm PST 
I guess I underestimate the nuances of queue-coding? by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 3:06pm PST 
Prediction: failure by Ray of Light 02/25/2009, 3:16pm PST 
Re: Prediction: failure by Fussbett 02/25/2009, 4:35pm PST 
what prevents anyone from entering a game that's below their skill level? NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/25/2009, 6:13pm PST 
This is already happening by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:14pm PST 
Apparently all matches are currently running unranked, so... by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 7:09pm PST 
Initial impressions by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 9:11pm PST 
no points for assists? it's 2009, get with the fucking times by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:14pm PST 
Nice half of a kill, fag by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 6:23pm PST 
that's what kill stealers need to hear NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 6:29pm PST 
I think this actually came out better with the typo NT by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 7:17pm PST 
also, no widescreen support, and really: by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:24pm PST 
Re: also, no widescreen support, and really: by Ray of Light 02/26/2009, 7:25pm PST 
This kind of proves the point I think. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 3:19am PST 
I didn't even hate qt3arena but come on the games that came out at that time by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/27/2009, 3:49am PST 
Counter-Strike made Caek 3 Arena look like Pong. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 7:04am PST 
You mean the lost decade? To help ex-CS'ers get up to speed I like to wear this by Ray of Light 02/27/2009, 10:46am PST 
Q3A is id's best game. I know! I can't believe it either! by mark 02/27/2009, 12:46pm PST 
I like Q3A as much as the next guy, unless that guy thinks it's better than DOOM NT by Jerry Whorebach 02/27/2009, 1:10pm PST 
Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Matt 02/28/2009, 1:35am PST 
Re: Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/28/2009, 3:37am PST 
ok here is a few positive notes I can add on cake life by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:34pm PST 
Re: Quake Live by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:44pm PDT 
*immediately goes back to playing 2fort* NT by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:46pm PDT 
No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 10:08pm PDT 
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 10:21pm PDT 
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:34pm PDT 
"most games require their own PC" -- brains of Cable Bros. (viral marketers) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 11:22pm PDT 
You can probably get even better framerates from Daikatana. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:33pm PDT 
That is not a smart thing to say. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 12:21am PDT 
So you can't get a better framerate from Daikatana? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 1:56am PDT 
so you can't run a new game but can run a shitty old game NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 2:57am PDT 
"Does what I am about to say make sense? Are there any details I have missed?" NT by Jsoh's discarded autism checklist 03/11/2009, 4:38am PDT 
He didn't mention that ray does nothing all day long but play 2fort. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 4:40am PDT 
"no" NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:51am PDT 
Re: "no" by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 5:44am PDT 
You're fucking retarded by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:31am PDT 
12x pixels 5x framerate by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:07am PDT 
Noep, Quake's engine is just older. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:31am PDT 
Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:34am PDT 
Re: Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:38pm PDT 
I also remember disabling it in Q3 because of bugs NT by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:42pm PDT 
You have made two ridiculous claims. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:37pm PDT 
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:02pm PDT 
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Choson 03/11/2009, 2:32pm PDT 
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Mysterious Stranger 03/11/2009, 4:03pm PDT 
Is this the first time ever that someone has repeated a Choson joke? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:21pm PDT 
What's a "Statician"? NT by Caltrops Anonymous Stupidity Patrol 03/11/2009, 8:25pm PDT 
ES getting mad at games again, keyboard flipped so hard it projects NT by FABIO 03/11/2009, 2:57pm PDT 
Ray's stupid fucking assertions are a game? by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 4:26pm PDT 
Fabio sucked NT by Admit it 09/20/2024, 2:16pm PDT 
Why are people queuing up to argue with me about Quake and TF2? by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:22pm PDT 
Jso and I do not permit him to have autism. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:30am PDT 
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Fussbett 03/10/2009, 10:24pm PDT 
Haha. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:32pm PDT 
replace the move names, that chart works with all the others NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 11:41pm PDT 
Yeah like anyone plays any other characters. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:43pm PDT 
Balrog's by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:22am PDT 
Ken by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 12:04pm PDT 
TF2 runs great for me NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 5:09pm PDT 
EVEN THE SHACKTOWN OG CAN FIELD THE NECESSARY KIT, RAY NT by Entropy Stew 03/12/2009, 2:32pm PDT 
I hope this doesn't embarrass Ray. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 2:36pm PDT 
Complaints by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 11:30am PDT 
the only important thing to note at all: by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:34pm PDT 
Is this the millionth time time Weyoun hasn't liked something and told us so? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:24pm PDT 
Yeah, Fabio gets away with it because he's handsome, but fuck this guy. NT by Quétinbec 03/11/2009, 8:40pm PDT 
the answer: negative, pay more attention to caltrops posts next time maybe you'l NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 8:58pm PDT 
Why would anyone post about what they think on a message board, it's just ridicu NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 11:53pm PDT 
it's a bannable offense on qt3 NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 12:01am PDT 
*rips off Clatrops Statician's mask to reveal Tom Chick* NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 12:12am PDT 
caltrops statician, public SHITIOT number one NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 2:41am PDT 
WE'RE IN THE EYE OF A SHITTICAINE NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 3:56am PDT 
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