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by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:02pm PDT |
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Ray of Light wrote:
Maybe you could point out what elements of those TF2 scenes justify the 60-fold reduction in pixel output?
The modern engine that doesn't look like Q3.
I'm no expert, have at 'er, I'm sure to be impressed. But I bet no justification exists.
You fucking retard, Quake 3 is a 10 year old game designed for 10 year old hardware. It runs on a fucking iPhone. It also looks like a pile of anus when compared to TF2.
In that interview, JC talks about how the engine is universally super fast.
JC wrote it 10 years ago, therefore it runs fast on 10 year old hardware. Wow.
It is that way because of things he did, like programming and working with driver makers to make it fast. These are the kinds of things a genius does.
Source engine games consistently clock up very high framerates in benchmarks. Buy a vid card that isn't made out of leaves and pine cones. And you don't think that motherfucking Valve can get on the horn with nVidia or ATI any time they need to? You don't think they have a direct line to people at both companies? You don't think the Source engine is part of the standard vid card regression tests, like Quake 3? Idiot.
In contrast, many parts of the TF2 engine appear sloppy and disinterested (particle effects
What?! Ok, here's what I think your problem is: you don't understand TF2's art direction.
, the previously mentioned pain of switching video modes in game, the absence of vid_restart, more).
Might be the DirectX vs. OpenGL thing. Alt-tabbing is a big problem in most games.
That is how I can so confidently claim that Quake's engine is the superior effort.
You're blind, retarded. You can run TF2 at 1900x1200,4xAA,16x ansio w/ HDR on a single 8800GTX.
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Quake Live by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 6:35pm PST
FUCK YOU VALVE YOU LOST ME AS A CUSTOMER (GONE 2 QUAKE) NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 6:59pm PST
You are in line, take a number (#13668) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:00pm PST
The ultimate slow-off, 3Drealms already has the lead. NT by Worm 02/24/2009, 7:01pm PST
Then you get spawn killed and go back to the end of the line by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:16pm PST
My Scout update download and QL queue are racing NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:32pm PST
Unfuckingbelievable - they held us in suspense just to announce the poll result? by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:39pm PST
They also rolled out the patch NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:42pm PST
Without the Double Payload map shown in that screenshot NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:45pm PST
And Quake Live hates Google Chrome. NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:52pm PST
I got to play one full match, now Punkbuster kicks me after less than a minute NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:59pm PST
"Server Disconnected - Punkbuster kicked player 'Fortinbras' (for 0 minutes) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 10:50pm PST
File a bug? by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:55pm PST
I got your bug report right here! by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 5:06pm PST
Update: Fixed on Firefox by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:17pm PST
A video explaining how to play deathmatch. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/24/2009, 8:38pm PST
this is the paradigm shift that fps games have been needing since HL2/Crysis NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:43pm PST
yay I was 75th in line waiting for the game to let me in o boy can't wait by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:48pm PST
email finally showed up, I click the automatic link, now I'm 1754 in line by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:50pm PST
Gimme your usernames NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:21pm PST
Fuck you NT by Utvgfdpx 02/24/2009, 9:26pm PST
Whoa, the spam is getting hostile! NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:57pm PST
This queue thing is fucking embarassing. 24 hours of epic fuckups. by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 2:51pm PST
It went into open beta without a player limit by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:58pm PST
I guess I underestimate the nuances of queue-coding? by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 3:06pm PST
Prediction: failure by Ray of Light 02/25/2009, 3:16pm PST
Re: Prediction: failure by Fussbett 02/25/2009, 4:35pm PST
what prevents anyone from entering a game that's below their skill level? NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/25/2009, 6:13pm PST
This is already happening by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:14pm PST
Apparently all matches are currently running unranked, so... by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 7:09pm PST
Initial impressions by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 9:11pm PST
no points for assists? it's 2009, get with the fucking times by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:14pm PST
Nice half of a kill, fag by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 6:23pm PST
that's what kill stealers need to hear NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 6:29pm PST
I think this actually came out better with the typo NT by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 7:17pm PST
also, no widescreen support, and really: by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:24pm PST
Re: also, no widescreen support, and really: by Ray of Light 02/26/2009, 7:25pm PST
This kind of proves the point I think. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 3:19am PST
I didn't even hate qt3arena but come on the games that came out at that time by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/27/2009, 3:49am PST
Counter-Strike made Caek 3 Arena look like Pong. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 7:04am PST
You mean the lost decade? To help ex-CS'ers get up to speed I like to wear this by Ray of Light 02/27/2009, 10:46am PST
Q3A is id's best game. I know! I can't believe it either! by mark 02/27/2009, 12:46pm PST
I like Q3A as much as the next guy, unless that guy thinks it's better than DOOM NT by Jerry Whorebach 02/27/2009, 1:10pm PST
Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Matt 02/28/2009, 1:35am PST
Re: Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/28/2009, 3:37am PST
ok here is a few positive notes I can add on cake life by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:34pm PST
Re: Quake Live by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:44pm PDT
*immediately goes back to playing 2fort* NT by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:46pm PDT
No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 10:08pm PDT
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 10:21pm PDT
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:34pm PDT
"most games require their own PC" -- brains of Cable Bros. (viral marketers) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 11:22pm PDT
You can probably get even better framerates from Daikatana. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:33pm PDT
That is not a smart thing to say. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 12:21am PDT
So you can't get a better framerate from Daikatana? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 1:56am PDT
so you can't run a new game but can run a shitty old game NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 2:57am PDT
"Does what I am about to say make sense? Are there any details I have missed?" NT by Jsoh's discarded autism checklist 03/11/2009, 4:38am PDT
He didn't mention that ray does nothing all day long but play 2fort. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 4:40am PDT
"no" NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:51am PDT
Re: "no" by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 5:44am PDT
You're fucking retarded by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:31am PDT
12x pixels 5x framerate by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:07am PDT
Noep, Quake's engine is just older. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:31am PDT
Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:34am PDT
Re: Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:38pm PDT
I also remember disabling it in Q3 because of bugs NT by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:42pm PDT
You have made two ridiculous claims. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:37pm PDT
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:02pm PDT
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Choson 03/11/2009, 2:32pm PDT
Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Mysterious Stranger 03/11/2009, 4:03pm PDT
Is this the first time ever that someone has repeated a Choson joke? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:21pm PDT
What's a "Statician"? NT by Caltrops Anonymous Stupidity Patrol 03/11/2009, 8:25pm PDT
ES getting mad at games again, keyboard flipped so hard it projects NT by FABIO 03/11/2009, 2:57pm PDT
Ray's stupid fucking assertions are a game? by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 4:26pm PDT
Why are people queuing up to argue with me about Quake and TF2? by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:22pm PDT
Jso and I do not permit him to have autism. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:30am PDT
Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Fussbett 03/10/2009, 10:24pm PDT
Haha. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:32pm PDT
replace the move names, that chart works with all the others NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 11:41pm PDT
Yeah like anyone plays any other characters. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:43pm PDT
Balrog's by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:22am PDT
Ken by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 12:04pm PDT
TF2 runs great for me NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 5:09pm PDT
EVEN THE SHACKTOWN OG CAN FIELD THE NECESSARY KIT, RAY NT by Entropy Stew 03/12/2009, 2:32pm PDT
I hope this doesn't embarrass Ray. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 2:36pm PDT
Complaints by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 11:30am PDT
the only important thing to note at all: by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:34pm PDT
Is this the millionth time time Weyoun hasn't liked something and told us so? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:24pm PDT
Yeah, Fabio gets away with it because he's handsome, but fuck this guy. NT by Quétinbec 03/11/2009, 8:40pm PDT
the answer: negative, pay more attention to caltrops posts next time maybe you'l NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 8:58pm PDT
Why would anyone post about what they think on a message board, it's just ridicu NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 11:53pm PDT
it's a bannable offense on qt3 NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 12:01am PDT
*rips off Clatrops Statician's mask to reveal Tom Chick* NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 12:12am PDT
caltrops statician, public SHITIOT number one NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 2:41am PDT
WE'RE IN THE EYE OF A SHITTICAINE NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 3:56am PDT
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