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Re: Key word is well trained by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/21/2012, 3:13am PST
like most people here aren't wrote:

Repubs and Libertarians like fat darcos won't even allow us to require background checks on 100% of gun sales so does anyone think they'll allow compulsory education and testing to get a gun permit? Throwing up examples of countries with more/less gun violence is part of the straw man smokescreen obfuscation strategy of these assholes.

Please search through the stuff I've written and show where I made that claim or in any way said that. I won't hold my breath waiting for your apology, but you won't ever admit you claimed I said something that I did not.

I have no problem with a requirement that you know how to properly use a gun before being sold one. Here in Maryland they have a very strict law to get a permit to carry a weapon, you can't even open carry in public without a permit, and it's really hard to get one without a good reason, "good reason" being what, in the opinon of the Maryland State Police, is a good reason. In fact, there is a court case here challenging Maryland's restrictions and if it's upheld on appeal, Maryland might go from being a "might issue" state where the government can decide if they want to let you have a gun, to a "shall issue" state where you can get a permit unless you have a disqualifier like mental illness or prior criminal conviction.

Maryland has very strict rules on having a gun in publc. You can open or concealed carry only on your own property. To carry a gun in public if you don't have a carry permit, it has to be in a locked case.

But to even buy a gun in Maryland you have to take a training class; you can go to one or you can take it over the Internet. It shows basic gun safety for revolvers and semi-automatic pistols. Once you take the course you get a piece of paper with your information on it. It has two parts, one you keep to show to a gun seller in order to be able to buy a weapon, the other half is mailed to the state police to show that you took the safety course. I've taken and passed it, it's not that hard and I found it to be fun, especially when it shows how a gun loads a round in the chamber and what happens when you fire a round. If you want to try the course, it's free and you can get to it here.

MDGunSafety.Com

I don't really mind that sort of restriction on the purchase of guns any more than I mind a requirement that you know how to use an automobile before operating it, and the way we prove that is you get a drivers' license. But even at that, in most cases, all a drivers' license shows is you met at least the minimum requirements to operate some automobile, and if you qualify they issue you a class C license. Class B licenses, mostly for bus drivers, and Class A, for commercial tractor-trailers, have much tougher requirements.

So just about anyone who can figure out how to push a car around can get a class C license, that allows the holder to drive anything weighing under 26,001 pounds, which includes anything up to a good-sized box truck. A drivers' license issued for a particular class doesn't mean they are capable of driving a particular vehicle that is within that class, it just means they're licensed to operate some vehicle in that class. As I noted, when you get into commercial licenses there are more stringent requirements, you have to have additional ratings to prove you know what you're doing to operate a vehicle with air brakes or carrying hazardous material. I think if you have a Class A license you can operate a rig with a double (that's a tractor and two tandem trailers), and it may be that, where they allow them, I think you also need an extra endorsement to drive triples (a tractor with three trailers.) They don't generally allow triples here, I think it's mostly out west.

I mean, I had a license and drove for 20 years, but when my sister needed me to be able to drive her car, she had to teach me how, at 35, because I did not know how to drive a vehicle with a manual transmission. Just because I had decades of experience operating cars with automatic transmission, does not mean I had the slightest ability to use one with a stick shift.

But, at least having a drivers' license with some training is a start and it's far better than someone not having some training on how to operate a motor vehicle.

And I don't find requiring someone at least know basic safety rules for handling a gun is an onerous requirement before buying one.
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Nice try, faggots, but we're gonna wait until 100 kids get killed before NT by considering any new gun laws. 12/14/2012, 11:16am PST NEW
    Re: Nice try, faggots, but we're gonna wait until 100 kids get killed before by Mysterio 12/14/2012, 11:55am PST NEW
        Is the above post mostly really crazy? NT by Or is it just me? 12/14/2012, 12:09pm PST NEW
            No, just a convoluted way of saying let's not try anything different NT by intellectualized laziness 12/14/2012, 12:15pm PST NEW
            What points do you disagree with? NT by Mysterio 12/14/2012, 1:04pm PST NEW
                Re: What points do you disagree with? by CRAZY ASSESSMENT 12/14/2012, 4:06pm PST NEW
                    Re: What points do you disagree with? by Mysterio 12/14/2012, 6:14pm PST NEW
                        I don't want to agree... NT by But I do? 12/14/2012, 8:43pm PST NEW
                        Re: What points do you disagree with? by CRAZY ASSESSMENT 12/15/2012, 4:19am PST NEW
                            SPICE WITHDRAWAL IS ALWAYS FATAL NT by Emperor Shaddam IV 12/17/2012, 1:34pm PST NEW
                            Re: What points do you disagree with? by Mysterio 12/18/2012, 7:11pm PST NEW
                                When cocaine is legal again we can finally return to original Coca-Cola recipe! NT by Legal cocaine won't end society. 12/19/2012, 6:44pm PST NEW
                            Re: What points do you disagree with? by Mysterio 12/18/2012, 7:15pm PST NEW
            Definitely completely crazy. NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/14/2012, 1:08pm PST NEW
            Re: Is the above post mostly really crazy? by blackwater 05/05/2013, 8:51pm PDT NEW
        Re: Nice try, faggots, but we're gonna wait until 100 kids get killed before by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/15/2012, 10:58am PST NEW
            Which business regulations are keeping you out of work? NT by No pistols, no carry, no exceptions 12/18/2012, 3:09am PST NEW
    Hey buddy, you can't talk about gun control until they bury the dead! by Worm 12/14/2012, 12:58pm PST NEW
        *decompose NT by Worm 12/14/2012, 1:05pm PST NEW
            DECOMPOSE! by D'Compose 12/14/2012, 5:50pm PST NEW
        Ergo, the best way for there to never be a gun control debate is to... NT by KEEP SHOOTING 12/14/2012, 3:53pm PST NEW
    Fascinating commentary, Rachel Maddow NT by WITTGENSTEIN 12/14/2012, 8:34pm PST NEW
        If murder is easy we're all safe, since you just kill the other guy first (lol) NT by Worm 12/14/2012, 9:06pm PST NEW
        Increased gun ownership would help stop this. Imagine if Nancy Lanza had a gun NT by to defend herself from her son. 12/15/2012, 3:39am PST NEW
    If only those kindergarteners were armed, this tragedy could have been averted! by Mischief Box Office Multiplier 12/15/2012, 6:00am PST NEW
    Seen any mass killings at gun shows, police stations, National Guard armories? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/15/2012, 11:32am PST NEW
        The one guy who aprehended the Gifford shooter nearly shot the wrong guy. by Worm 12/15/2012, 12:00pm PST NEW
        There have been no mass killings in any bakery or deli. Know why? No you don't. NT by FORT HOOD YOU MORON 12/15/2012, 2:26pm PST NEW
        THE BEAR PATROL IS WORKING! NT by Tansin A. Darcos (fucking idiot) 12/15/2012, 2:37pm PST NEW
    Why no mass killings in Switzerland? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/15/2012, 11:50am PST NEW
        Well sure compulsory military service is much more realistic than gun control. by Worm 12/15/2012, 12:04pm PST NEW
        Every liberal in the US would love to have the Swiss laws and regulations by No pistols, no carry, no exceptions 12/15/2012, 2:23pm PST NEW
            That is not the point I am making about Switzerland by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/21/2012, 2:38am PST NEW
                Does anywhere else in the civilized world have gun laws like the USA? by Worm 12/21/2012, 10:28am PST NEW
        Key word is well trained by like most people here aren't 12/17/2012, 7:43pm PST NEW
            AND HELLO, NO CARRY PERMITS AT ALL. SOCIALIST NIGHTMARE. NT by No pistols, no carry, no exceptions 12/18/2012, 3:07am PST NEW
            Re: Key word is well trained by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/21/2012, 3:13am PST NEW
                I am shocked and appalled at what I'm reading here. by Jerry Whorebach 12/21/2012, 8:02pm PST NEW
                    Re: I am shocked and appalled at what I'm reading here. by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/05/2013, 2:28am PST NEW
    The slaves are in a state of panic. Quick, somebody fuck with the constitution! NT by Roop 12/18/2012, 4:42am PST NEW
        You can't own an LMG or Howtizer, so I'm pretty sure that 2nd ammendment is NT by "shot" to shit 12/18/2012, 11:06am PST NEW
            The "Miller" case was generally misread by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/21/2012, 3:46am PST NEW
                I don't know where you got the Miller cause out of my stupid one liner. by Worm 12/21/2012, 10:35am PST NEW
                    *case, jesus fucking christ NT by Worm 12/21/2012, 10:35am PST NEW
                    Miller is an argument over use of weapons in an organized militia by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/21/2012, 2:33pm PST NEW
                        I am totally getting me some artillery. NT by Where's the closest school? 12/21/2012, 8:31pm PST NEW
    Re: Nice try, faggots, but we're gonna wait until 100 kids get killed before by Souffle of Pain 12/19/2012, 10:13am PST NEW
        How long would it be until the first frustrated teacher blows away a student? by Worm 12/19/2012, 10:40am PST NEW
            Re: How long would it be until the first frustrated teacher blows away a stud by laudablestudentbj 12/19/2012, 11:18am PST NEW
            Uh, that's a definite no-no by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/04/2013, 8:11am PDT NEW
                Ha! fucked ya again, paul. you make my job too easy NT by Asperger's 05/04/2013, 2:23pm PDT NEW
    TDARCOS - NRA speechwriter? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 12/21/2012, 8:36pm PST NEW
    Dude causes a panic by parading a loaded AR-15 through a grocery store by Mischief Maker 02/13/2013, 8:12am PST NEW
        Re: Dude causes a panic by parading a loaded AR-15 through a grocery store by Mysterio 02/13/2013, 9:21am PST NEW
    An armed society is a polite society by fabio 03/13/2013, 10:32am PDT NEW
        And you all sneered when I said the NRA was just protecting corporate interests! NT by Mischief Maker 03/13/2013, 10:42am PDT NEW
        The Walnart shooter was stupid by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/13/2013, 3:29pm PDT NEW
            So the moral is gun owners should lie to police to get away with playing cowboy by fabio 03/13/2013, 8:17pm PDT NEW
                Well, let's see, which is better, walk home or walk off in handcuffs? NT by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/15/2013, 7:18am PDT NEW
                    How 'bout not getting caught in a lie and provoking the prosecutor? by Mischief Maker 03/15/2013, 7:34am PDT NEW
                        How about saying nothing at all, which is always allowed by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/16/2013, 1:34am PDT NEW
                    Exactly. Better to commit a crime and escape punishment than face jail. NT by HANDS IN THE AIR THIS IS A STICKUP 03/15/2013, 7:37am PDT NEW
                    Trick question! Walking is for suckers. NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/15/2013, 7:51am PDT NEW
            Re: The Walnart shooter was stupid by Bonjourno's crying wife. 03/15/2013, 10:20pm PDT NEW
        The problem is that the shoplifter was unarmed, so he couldn't defend himself. by SOLUTION: MORE GUNS 03/15/2013, 10:22pm PDT NEW
    I swear pit bull owners dont defend their beloved pets with the passion of gun o NT by Mischief Maker 03/15/2013, 10:43pm PDT NEW
        What, you don't believe in the One Bite Rule either? Jeez, man. by WITTGENSTEIN 03/16/2013, 10:53am PDT NEW
 
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