Caltrops - Balance of Power





	[quote name="Hmmm no this can't be it's differen"][quote name="Vested Id"][quote name="laudablepuss"]Bolton's denial isn't much of a denial. He totally believes Trump would say this, just doesn't remember it happening at the discussion mentioned.[/quote] Fair enough [quote]Let's talk about the things you must believe to twist this into a non-story: Mattis and Kelly are liars, but the President is reliable. Or Mattis and Kelly help the MEDIA!!!!111 lie while Trump is a righteous victim[/quote] Two disgruntled former employees resurrect this two-years-old claim 1) during election season, 2) <a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/09/trumps-pick-for-afghanistan-ambassador-wants-to-withdraw-us-troops-immediately/">the same day this happens</a> [quote]Your own ears when Trump attacked a gold star family and McCain on TV, showing his general attitude toward the military. Also the story of his bone spurs, etc[/quote] Can you explain what made these incidents unacceptable? [quote]The story that helicopters won't fly in the rain and then the Secret Service wouldn't drive him story.[/quote] Yeah that's the story, inclement weather means no helicopter and the roads weren't secure. Maybe it's made up but I need better. This is not a admin that has ever attracted a lot of loyalty and affection, I have no problem believing people are twisting words or even fabricating things. [quote name="laudablepuss"][quote name="Vested Id"]No one cares that he thinks Vietnam solders were "suckers", because they were if you mean it was a dumb war where they were being asked to needlessly give their lives. Give me more.[/quote] I'm unsure what to say about this. Do you know anything at all about the vietnam war? We're play acting a conversation between a mature conservative veteran and an absurd know-it-all liberal, except weirdly you're the liberal.[/quote] Uh it's extremely simple. I don't trust the claim. I'm familiar with the person accused of saying it, and I know how easy it is to twist his words. If he said this around military guys who already dislike him, it's easy to see how they might clutch their ribbons over his stating common wisdom about the value of our sacrifice in Vietnam.[/quote][/quote]