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Re: Hah, no you did not
[quote name="gaslighting or gaslit?"][quote name="Horus Truthteller"]I seem to recall you guys having trouble when Trump <i>literally</i> said COVID-19 was a hoax. You guys still bleat about that one.[/quote] I should have included that in my original as an example. You've either never watched the clip and you only digest info in Tweet-sized chunks, or you've got the communication skills of a badger. Or both. Your <a href="https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/08/ask-politifact-are-you-sure-donald-trump-didnt-cal/">preferred info sources</a> have been forced to 'bleat' about it. When never-Trump sources call you on your shit, it means you're pretty dumb even for a leftist. [quote name="PolitiFact"]"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa. They can’t even count. No, they can’t. They can’t count their votes. "One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax." Our reading of these comments is that Trump is saying Democratic criticism of him is a hoax, not that the coronavirus doesn’t exist or wasn’t real. We’ve been unable to find other comments of Trump suggesting that. When asked about his comments the next day, Trump specifically said he was talking about Democrats’ reaction: "Hoax, referring to the action that they take to try and pin this on somebody, because we’ve done such a good job," Trump said. Other fact-checkers have agreed with our reading of Trump’s comments. Here’s what they have to say. Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word ‘hoax’ but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration’s handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself." The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media’s coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax." Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax." AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a ‘new hoax.’"[/quote] <i>"Literally"</i> lol talk about True Believers[/quote]