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Re: I guess this is a COVID thread now. OK, so I will say all the standard th
[quote name="blackwater"][quote author="Rafiki"] Ok, so you get your news from shitty, dishonest news sources with intentionally misleading headlines. The CDC did not report that 79% of all Omicron cases occurred in vaccinated individuals, they reported that they followed up on 43 of the first Omicron cases reported and 79% of those were in vaccinated people. They were not making general conclusions, they explicitly said so in the report your news article linked: [/quote] OK, that's fair. I agree that 43 cases is a small sample size. It's not a great article. [quote author="Rafiki"] Who even denied [that vaccinated people can get COVID]? There's breakthrough cases of measles, so what? That doesn't make vaccinating against it an exercise in futility. [/quote] I never claimed that vaccines were futile. I claimed that lockdowns and shutdowns were futile. [quote author="Rafiki"] Based on what I've seen you read, I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about. Also, lol @ pissing away mountains of blood and treasure. Infection rates aside, it's documented fact that vaccinated people require less medical care and hospitalizations, which not only reduces the mortality rate of infection but also the financial cost of getting infected. They quarantined everyone short-term and long-term pleaded with people to isolate, distance themselves, take various precautionary measures to avoid infection, and offered free and safe vaccines when they became available, and even with those measures, even with millions and millions of people actually following them, report after report after report of overloaded hospitals and overworked healthcare workers kept rolling in. And then you sit there and say, "What a waste of time, money, and resources to do any of that." Are you fucking retarded? How is the only sane, rational conclusion not, "Holy shit, thank god some people actually did all of those things, because without that *checks current outcomes of the unvaccinated* it would have been so much worse." [/quote] Let me make a prediction. COVID is here to stay and there will be a new vaccine every year or two, just like there is with the flu. You, personally, will get COVID at some point. Maybe not this variant. Maybe the next one, or the one after that. It will kill some old and sick people every year. Just like with the flu, some variants will be mild and some will be [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu]worse.[/url] But we are just going to have to learn to deal with it and not freak out. Deaths can be minimized if we deploy vaccines promptly (rather than continuing to use the same vaccine for 2+ years while the virus mutates), if we don't all live in big cities, if fewer of us use public transit, if a lot of us work from home, if we have good air filtration systems in public spaces, if we live in warmer places and have a younger population. Some of that is politically acceptable to the current people in power. Some of it's not. Either way it doesn't really matter because the virus is out of the box and it's not going back in.[/quote]