Forum Overview :: Gamerasutra :: The top 10 is engraging

[quote name="fuk dis shit"]<b>100 Unavowed</b> Not even in the top 100 of Wadjet Eye adventure games, and I think they only made a dozen. <b>96. Shadowrun: Dragonfall</b> Oh fuck off it's better than 90% of the RPGs on your list. Sure it's no pretty dress dress-up FFX-2 blitzball fuck you <b>92. Lethal Company</b> Not one single "streamer game" should make any top list. <b>90. Team Fortress 2</b> That 20% "historical importance" score sure seems more than 20% here. Almost every class based online shooter in the last 15 years has surpassed this. <b>89. Peak</b> The fuk? fuk u <b>84. Halo: The Master Chief Collection</b> There is no way "historical importance" is only 20% <b>80. Stellaris</b> And Master of Orion didn't even make this list? Fuk YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUuuuuu <b>79. Cult of the Lamb</b> Really? The majority of opinions is a mediocre Roguelike action meets lame town builder. Rogue Legacy should have made this is list before this blah. <b>77. What Remains of Edith Finch</b> On one hand, fuk u. On the other hand, I should at least be grateful Gone Home didn't make it. <b>73. FTL: Faster Than Light</b> Slay the Spire is arguably the only other Roguelike high watermark. #73??? <b>72. Vampire Survivors</b> Vampires suck and so does this FUCKING game. I'm the dude who made <a href="https://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=213419">this thread.</a> Completely serious that every other copycat is better than this SHIT. And it's still inferior to Crimsonlands. <b>71. Alan Wake 2</b> Who da fuk thought this was better than the original, which wasn't even a top 100 game to begin with. <b>62. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2</b> [quote]Ted Litchfield, Associate Editor: Most of Star Wars is playing checkers while KotOR 2 was beating Deep Blue at chess. Star Wars is a beloved setting with history, politics, and economics that make no sense, but The Sith Lords took it extremely seriously, following its ideas to their logical conclusions, and the result is the best Star Wars story ever.[/quote] Even when they list a good game, they fuck it up for the wrong reasons. The universe background was the probably the dumbest part of Kotor 2. It was the dialog and characters that made it shine. <b>53. Papers, Please</b> Yahtzee the performer is fun. Yahtzee the critic can fuck right off. <b>51. Dragon Age: Origins</b> Already a bad choice, then they had to open their stupid mouths. [quote]Robert Jones, Print Editor: A landmark fantasy RPG which, on release, laid the foundation for the genre for years to come. With funny and moving writing, an exquisite dark fantasy tone, GOAT characters like Witch of the Wilds, Morrigan, and full-fat RPG systems that let you play the game your way, Origins remains the best Dragon Age experience and a must-play for fantasy RPG fans. Without Origins, there is no Baldur's Gate 3.[/quote] Hmmm yes. What predecessor does Baldur's Gate THREE owe its existence to more than Dragon Age? [quote]Lauren Morton, SEO Editor: If anything, Origins should have an even higher importance score. This is the game that set a new bar for RPGs that BioWare itself struggled to clear thereafter. I don't think we'll ever get a Mass Effect-style remaster on this one and I won't claim it's aged well, but the characters here are the blueprint for the past 15 years of RPGs we've had since.[/quote] Imagine being a professional video game history opinion haver and declaring Dragon Age to be the defining blueprint of every rpg the last two decades. <b>48. Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster</b> [quote]Andrea Shearon, Evergreen Writer: Truly the last Final Fantasy of its kind, FF10 and its sequel bookend an era of series greats that started with FF6 in the '90s and refused to slow down for decades. The remastered RPG lost some of the original art direction's charm, but Yuna's selfless pilgrimage is one of the best examples of Square Enix in its turn-based prime.[/quote] Imagine the professional video game history opinion haver who thinks FF6 was the beginning of the Squaresoft era and ran unbroken until FFX-2. This is why chicks shouldn't be allowed to have video game opinions. We end up with declarations that FF8 was great and endless slash fiction. <b>45. Straftat</b> Forty-fifth best pc game...of all time... <b>43. The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe</b> I'm getting the feeling that someone really REALLY wanted to include Gone Home, but they got a compromise where they were allowed to stick half a dozen massively overrated walking sim shit in here. <b>40. Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire</b> eh? Not bad, but 40???? <b>Hunt: Showdown 1896</b> Not even the top 50 of weird team based shooters. This game is WAY more interesting on paper than in practice. Should at least be glad Fortnite or PUBG never made it? <b>36. Max Payne</b> Max Payne 2 was an improvement in every possible way. As neat as it was back in the day, has anyone but Civvie gone back to replay these since? <b>34. Hades</b> I'm with Jonesy. I just did not "get it". Maybe someone can convince me it's actually good. You won't convince me it's the 34th best game ever made. <b>31. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater – Master Collection Version</b> Anything that can be described as "quirky, but an acquired taste" should not be on any top list. Only pussies describing the story as "a real tearjerker" could ever think MGS5 was less fun. <b>30. Fallout: New Vegas</b> Know what? Fine <b>29. Pentiment</b> The flawed quirky category is getting ridiculous with how high it's climbing. <b>23. Undertale</b> "We're so desperate to get away from traditional jRPG menu combat that we'll praise anything that slips in a dumb mini-game for attacks" meets insufferable Homestuck culture. <b>22. Divinity: Original Sin 2</b> Not bad, but top 22? part 2 <b>21. Planescape: Torment</b> The fact that less than 10% of this list was from before 2011 and this is only the 2nd game from before 2000 should really tell you something about these clueless Gen Z'ers. What fucking ages are they pulling to make "best of all time" lists? [quote]Mollie Taylor, Features Producer: Persona's rag-tag teen shtick is losing its relatability as I barrel into my 30s, which makes me all the more grateful Metaphor exists.[/quote] BARREL!!!!! <b>19. Thief Gold</b> I went back and checked. All the 90s hallmark entries had zero comments from the dumb BARRELING broads. Women should only leave the kitchen to heal their boyfriends in WoW or League of Legends. <b>18. Prey</b> The spiritual System Shock 2 sequel that is technically better designed but also 15 years too late, #18? <b>17. Rimworld</b> Quirky, flawed acquired taste I've lost count. SEVENTEENTH? <b>16. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice</b> [quote]Harvey Randall, Staff Writer: I'm smug beyond belief that we ranked this above Dark Souls this year. The Souls that launched a thousand -likes will always sleep easy in my git-gud heart, but Sekiro is peerless. From's RPGs offer build expression, but if you've not played Sekiro you haven't seen what it can do when it narrows its focus to a honed, thrice-folded nippon edge. Also: the best Souls bosses. You can fight me on that.[/quote] Out of dozens of terrible comments, this is the first punch-worthy. <b>14. Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition</b> Robert Jones forgets this existence when writing his entry for Dragon Age, then forgets his Dragon Age entry when he writes on BG. [quote]Robert Jones, Print Editor: Every time I hear David Warner deliver the lines of Jon Irenicus, Baldur's Gate 2's incredibly memorable villain, I get chills, as it sums up the immense quality that pours forth out of this game at all moments. Defiant statements such as, "I cannot be caged. I cannot be controlled. Understand this as you die". Philosophical musings on the meaning of existence, such as, "Life… is strength. That is not to be contested; it seems logical enough. You live; you affect your world". And despair-laden realisations like, "I… I do not remember your love, Ellesime. I have tried to. I have tried to recreate it, to spark it anew in my memory. But it is gone... a hollow, dead thing".[/quote] How does your brain not explode putting the writing of Dragons Age games alongside those examples? <b>13. Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2</b> <i>(way too high ranking)</i>, really? <b>11. Doom (1993)</b> Again, no BROADS commenting. Scores 1st for importance, but only 6/10 for "freshness"? What the fuck else was comparable at the time? Who <i>didn't</i> think, "Games can DO this?" when first firing up Doom? <b>7. Caves of Qud</b> Maybe I was too hard on the broads. They sure as hell wouldn't have put this in the top 10. Then I remember chicks our age probably would have pushed to include Animal Crossing... <b>5. Crusader Kings 3</b> wwaaaay Too high acquired taste quirk <b>4. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt</b> wwaaaay better than most of their list. I wouldn't put it anywhere near top 5 though. <b>3. Dwarf Fortress</b> Chicks? Come back! <b>2. Disco Elysium – The Final Cut</b> ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh???? TWO?! <b>1. Baldur's Gate 3</b> I actually have yet to play it. I'm fine with the 2nd place "Freshness" score for being a AAA quality game that sold great without a trace of scummy monetization.[/quote]