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[quote name="I need clarification"][quote name="Lizard_King"][quote name="I need clarification"] I'm not advocating impeachment over it, though it would be funny to watch the rank and file crumble from under Bush as the heat comes down. But to suggest Bush wasn't lying because he was quoting someone else is ridiculous. That's fucking hearsay, and it's not admissable in a court of law. In America. [/quote] What are you babbling about? Look at what Bush said. Tell me which part is a lie. That the British were and are in error is very possible. That it was a lie on Bush's part is a fucking reach.[/quote] You're taking disingenuousness to a new level. Do you honestly believe Bush, who'd already excised a similar statement from a speech in October, thought there was any merit to the claim? I can't believe you're actually evaluating what he said based simply on the verbiage of it. Do you also think he's demonstrating a lot of "compassionate conservatism?" Kudos, by the way, on making it this far through the thread without using the words "Clinton" and/or "liberal." Extra <A HREF = "http://www.nas.com/downsyn/">chromosomes</A> or not, our little boy is growing up, slowly but surely... [quote name = "Corky"][quote]Besides, listen to what you're saying: if the president's own intelligence agency, his defense department, and his state department all believe there is no substance to the African uranium story, and have all advised him and his senior staff of this, he should still go with the story because MI6 is l33t? What about the ninjas? What do they have to say about it?[/quote] Folks like you that dwell exclusively in shades of gray should know by know that if there is any area such relativism applies it is the intelligence trade. You're speaking of them as categorically true and false when neither is known. The only thing that is known is that the one memo provided by the Italians that triggered the "conclusiveness" of Saddam's purchase, as a part of many other pieces of evidence, WAS false. Whether that was a setup on Berlusconi or whatever is interesting but irrelevant; to claim that one failure makes every other bit of it a wholly unsubstantiated, conspiratorial lie is ridiculous.[/quote] Who said anything about conspiracy? I think the British honestly believed the intel they got. It turned out to be wrong. We knew it was wrong, we confirmed it several times. If you're going to excuse what Bush said simply because he prefaced it with "The British say...", then why do we even bother having the CIA review anything? Why not just have Tony Blair come to our congress to make the case for war? Oh wait, we did...[/quote]