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[quote name="Lizard_King"][quote name="I need clarification"] Didn't you just say "even one kid... *sniff*... is too many!" while raising a rather limp-wristed fist?[/quote] So the difference from 76m to 6m doesn't merit mention? Not even a modification of your sweeping declarations? My point with the one child statement should have been obvious: you can get emotional about things, or you can face the actual numbers and see where the greatest good can be done. My reflex in that direction will always be to allow people to make a maximum of their own decisions, and that includes their money. [quote]And stop saying things like, "cold-hearted capitalism is what allows treatments for congenital heart disease to exist." That's stupid. Most medical research is done in universities, and France (AIDS!).[/quote] No, it's not. Had there not been rich people for whom these treatments were once luxuries, much like with now basic amenities like running water and electricity, there would not have been medical progress at the rate it has happened. [quote]Anyway, my point is that if we're truly the Greatest Nation On Earth Ever, we should act like it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with providing the population with easy access to education and healthcare regardless of their economic situation. Why would you want it any other way? What possible upside is there to someone not having that access? You seem to answer that question every single time with "NOT WITH MY DOLLARS THEY DON'T!!" Then with whose? How can they contribute to a medical savings account if they're having trouble paying the rent?[/quote] The reason is that money doesn't simply wither under the mattresses of the rich, middle class, or most normal people awaiting an enlightened government official's redistribution. You seem to have great difficulty understanding that the uses people put their own money, whether it is in big-screen tv's or healthcare, is the most efficient use of that money for that individual. You continue with histrionics about how poor people have no money, an abundantly obvious point that you seem to think trumps all others. It doesn't. That they don't is a sad reality. That other people should be penalized to subsidize them only makes it worse; unearned money is the most straightforward path to creating a corrupt society. That some government program is going to be the one that's going to change all that, after a track record of nothing but failure in the long run, is foolish and once again doesn't cover the very basic concept of opportunity cost. [quote] No one's advocating a free ride, just free education and some sort of consistent healthcare.[/quote] Government programs work fine for straightforward, short term goals. Like rural electrification. Free education beyond the fundamentals only guarantees universal mediocre-to-bad education; the focus should be on removing the American fetish with college degrees, and let people learn as far as they are willing to work for it beyond reading, writing, and basic arithmetic. I have no illusions that free healthcare will prove any less worthless. Once again, I posted the initial link not because I am a huge fan of any sort of universal healthcare plan; simply as a possible compromise between libertarians (me) and commies (you). BDR has done a good job of substantively dissecting it, so I think it can be discarded as an option with the addition of the initial caveat about the current status of the insurance business. [/quote]