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by ndd 10/08/2011, 4:31am PDT |
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Gutsby wrote:
I really wonder about how you scope the meaning of being there, though. It sounds like a very annoying and accomodating place to be - but how do you act in it without disrupting it?
You obviously understand all these things that you confront. Or at the very least you give a description of them that account for an understanding. You've found a place that you can predict and comprehend, just like the people present. Now what? How can you not act on being oriented? How can't they?
It's weird not being annoyed by some of it. I get residual annoyance, or like - phantom annoyance. This would have been annoying a few weeks ago. I had some trolly fantasies, too.
But uhhhhh I dunno. Efficiency and brilliance in conversation - it's cool when I can get it, and when I can't.... the point of the group for most of these people is social and affirming; even if the class description said something else entirely, that's what the point is for them. Somehow it got easy to go along with that. Maybe because there isn't anywhere we really have to be, so taking a long time to get there is not a problem.
The facilitators, one a "service" minister who worked in hospices and the other a ministerial candidate in his final year of school, were very big on the idea of "containment" - i.e. hey guys this is a casual class about theology, not group therapy. If you have something really heavy you need to discuss, bring it to us later, don't bring it up here. This principle did annoy me - well what good is a religion without agony and ecstasy, impassioned sentiment, serious soul-searching, tears and inward-turning confessions??? should this not be discussed?! - until you said "annoying and accommodating."
Yeah, that's just it. Profundity and passion go poorly with accessibility and tolerance. People are not generally flexible or sensitive enough to do all of them at once. Dealing with this conflict is trivial in this little once-a-week class, but I think it'll be a big-ass challenge sooner or later. A low ceiling...
tldr I ain't all that oriented yet, just newly civilized. And them? They're already acting on everything they feel like acting on, aren't they? As far as I would know. |
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in which i attend a theology class at church by ndd 10/07/2011, 4:03pm PDT 
I think we know how this ends. NT by Too Soon Industries, Inc. 10/07/2011, 4:33pm PDT 
shut up arsenio NT by ndd 10/07/2011, 4:37pm PDT 
She came from Caltrops, had a thirst for knowledge NT by Gutsby 10/07/2011, 5:28pm PDT 
Haha, I'm sorry, I love you by Gutsby 10/07/2011, 5:55pm PDT 
Re: Haha, I'm sorry, I love you by ndd 10/08/2011, 4:31am PDT 
Did I click the wrong link and end up back in the Questionable Content forum? by Mischief Maker 10/09/2011, 11:22pm PDT 
Inaccuracy? From MM? Never~ by ndd 10/10/2011, 12:09pm PDT 
Sending Zseni from Zero to Rape in 7 posts? OBJECTIVELY FUNNY by Mischief Maker 10/10/2011, 5:05pm PDT 
Ugh whatever. In a few years we'll revisit this like grownups. by ndd 10/10/2011, 5:56pm PDT 
Re: I click the wrong link and end up back in the Questionable Content forum? by Dan Savage 10/10/2011, 7:25pm PDT 
Expressing your Butthurt under the name "Dan Savage?" Now that's comedy! by Mischief Maker 10/10/2011, 7:42pm PDT 
Switching to a name that meets your Approval by Mischief Maker 10/10/2011, 7:58pm PDT 
No! Not my own reflection! by Mmischief-Ra 10/10/2011, 10:17pm PDT 
Using the "Reply" function to publish a response to my post? Now that's by Mischief Maker 10/10/2011, 11:21pm PDT 
SO BE IT! If I am the third Cable Brother then... by Mischief Shai-hulud 10/15/2011, 6:47pm PDT 
this does not compare favourably to troll police NT by Mysterio 10/15/2011, 7:18pm PDT 
If you mean it's funnier and better-drawn NT by then you're right. 10/16/2011, 10:34am PDT 
I have to admit, I don't get the joke. by ndd 10/16/2011, 12:56pm PDT 
Kobuh linked me to this thread. :( by Jhohward n Jsostein 10/16/2011, 4:05pm PDT 
that's like 12 minutes of video to understand one joke by ndd 10/16/2011, 4:35pm PDT 
Part 2 by Mischief Shai-hulud 10/16/2011, 1:30pm PDT 
this is much closer to the troll police tone NT by Mysterio 10/16/2011, 3:18pm PDT 
Part 3 by Mischief Shai-hulud 10/17/2011, 6:52am PDT 
~IT WAS ALL A DREAM!!~ NT by up with pod people 10/10/2011, 9:25pm PDT 
~I USED TO READ WORDUP MAGAZINE~ NT by Biggie Smalls 10/16/2011, 12:03am PDT 
NOT FUNNY NT by Spanky 10/11/2011, 9:41pm PDT 
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