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Re: Why is Scientology a cult and Mormonism a legit religion? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/05/2012, 11:04am PDT
L. Sprague De Camp, who created Conan the Barbarian, gave a pretty good definition of the difference between a cult and a religion.

"A religion is a cult that's been around long enough to have members born into it."

When your cult church has members that got married - or had kids, whether or not married - and those kids grow up as part of that cult, then you qualify as a religion.

Basically, you have to be old, and most people consider any church less than probably 50 to 100 years old is still a cult. Also, if you tend to operate hit squads to attack your opponents and you don't have government support, it reenforces the "cult" designation. The Catholic Church got rid of the Knights Templar back in the 12th Century; the order went down on a Friday the 13th, thus the superstition. The Catholic Church was intricately intertwined with governments back then, so it was a religion. Had it done this without government support, it would have been a cult and might still be considered one. (On a general basis, some people consider the Church of Rome to still be a cult.)

The Mormons are more than 100 years old; the Catholic Church goes back hundreds of years. The Lutheran Church got started in the 14th century after Martin Luther was fired ("excommunicated") from the Catholic Church and started his own. The church I grew up in, the Methodists, are a branch of the Church of England (which Henry the 8th started when the Pope wouldn't grant him a divorce, so he left the Catholic church, founded the Church of England, then as the chief priest, granted himself a divorce) so their history also goes back hundreds of years.

So that's why "young" religions are still cults: Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, Church of Satan, etc., are too young to be considered a religion. Also, as far as Scientology is concerned, everyone running the place is a direct associate of the founder and I believe knew Hubbard personally. If it lasts long enough to have executives that did not know Hubbard and the only knowledge they have of him is his writings, third-party comments and any videos he might have left, e.g. the historical record, then it might qualify as a religion. It's too young so it's still considered a cult.
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        Why is Scientology a cult and Mormonism a legit religion? by Mischief Mephistopheles 10/03/2012, 7:59pm PDT NEW
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            Re: Why is Scientology a cult and Mormonism a legit religion? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/05/2012, 11:04am PDT NEW
 
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