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The problem with Anita's videos: not enough IMHOs? by Jerry Whorebach 05/29/2013, 12:05am PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

She did it this time with Ico. She says, "In the most decidedly patronizing examples..." but nobody has "decided" anything like that. It's her stupid opinion. And experiencing Ico for the first time when it was a new release, Ico holding Yorda by the hand was awesome. There was no UI. It was a game about two dumb kids who had each other and nothing else. For her to go TROPE TROPE TROPE at it makes her look like the asshole, not the people who made Ico.

Something can be enjoyable and patronizing at the same time. I think she tried to make that point early in the video, though she used the word "problematic" to do it, so anyone familiar with internet discourse would be forgiven for mentally shooting that entire sentence through the tiny basketball hoop on their brain's circular file.

Anita Sarkeesian wrote:

Over the course of this series I will be offering critical analysis of many popular games and characters, but please keep in mind that it’s both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy a piece of media while also being critical of it’s more problematic or pernicious aspects.

Anyway, I think she's fully qualified to decide what she finds patronizing for herself. And even if you don't agree, it's not like Fumito Ueda and his team DON'T have a reputation as loveably sexist Japanese stereotypes, so she's got that whole bullshit wisdom of crowds thing in her corner, too.

Here's a great piece of trivia that came out of a Team Ico presentation from TGS 2010. It's about The Last Guardian, the spiritual successor to Ico that's going to finally make owning a PS3 worthwhile:

1UP's Matt Leone wrote:

Early in development, the main character in The Last Guardian was female, but the team ended up going with a boy. The reason: they thought it would be more realistic that he would have enough grip strength to be able to climb around, and because they wouldn't have to worry about camera angles with a girl who wears a skirt.

Some statements are so perfectly patronizing to women, the only possible response is a high five. Those statements get a free pass, whether they take the form of awesome video games or just literal statements. It's the next ten worthless assholes who jump up to say the same thing only much, much less cleverly that deserve to get Sarkeesian'd with a twenty-five minute long black rubber Sarkeesian.
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Nearly 3 Months Later, here we are again. by Worm 05/28/2013, 4:00pm PDT NEW
    Halfway through and all she's doing is coming up with more names for tropes. by Worm 05/28/2013, 4:07pm PDT NEW
        Re: Halfway through and all she's doing is coming up with more names for tropes. by Mysterio 05/28/2013, 5:41pm PDT NEW
    There are people who need to hear this. Those people are called games writers. by Jerry Whorebach 05/28/2013, 5:57pm PDT NEW
        There are people who need to hear this. Those people are called games writers. by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/28/2013, 7:44pm PDT NEW
            The problem with Anita's videos: not enough IMHOs? by Jerry Whorebach 05/29/2013, 12:05am PDT NEW
                Re: The problem with Anita's videos: not enough IMHOs? by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 2:14am PDT NEW
                    You realize the lack of thrust in the insults is related to a lack of investment by fucking newbie 05/29/2013, 4:29am PDT NEW
                At least you see it for what it is - punishing and egocentric material by fucking newbie 05/29/2013, 4:52am PDT NEW
                    Yeah, I'm pretty good at pulling back the curtains on stuff. by Jerry Whorebach 05/29/2013, 6:07am PDT NEW
                        Combo system? It combines ready access to weapons and disease-ridden desperation NT by with kids carting antibiotics aroun 05/29/2013, 4:27pm PDT NEW
                Re: The problem with Anita's videos: not enough IMHOs? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/29/2013, 8:56am PDT NEW
        I could agree with her, but there are still some points I take issue with by Worm 05/28/2013, 11:12pm PDT NEW
            An improvement on her earlier work? What are we doing talking about this shit? by fucking newbie 05/29/2013, 5:03am PDT NEW
                I produce a steaming BM every morning which outweighs your miserable life, idiot by Worm 05/29/2013, 5:27am PDT NEW
                    I don't like the answer, but I do like that there aren't too many converts here. NT by Maybe that counts for something. 05/29/2013, 3:58pm PDT NEW
    If it didn't have violence against women, why would we even play the game? :) NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 12:47am PDT NEW
    Dis shit don't stop by Vested Id 05/29/2013, 12:52am PDT NEW
    Re: Nearly 3 Months Later, here we are again. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 12:55am PDT NEW
    Someone needs to be the canary in the coal mine by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 6:55am PDT NEW
        I orgasmed like twelve times just reading that. by Meet me on ChristianSingles.com 05/29/2013, 7:03am PDT NEW
            Re: I orgasmed like twelve times just reading that. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 3:36pm PDT NEW
                Re: I orgasmed like twelve times just reading that. by Souffle of Pain 05/29/2013, 4:29pm PDT NEW
                    Re: I orgasmed like twelve times just reading that. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 4:47pm PDT NEW
            $100 to TDARCOS if he joins ChristianSingles.com and posts the replies he ge NT by Favorite Movie: The Crow 05/29/2013, 4:28pm PDT NEW
                ChristianSingles.com is a big rip off by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 5:03pm PDT NEW
                    Correction by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 5:46pm PDT NEW
                        Nevermind! by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/30/2013, 4:46pm PDT NEW
                            If this is really me, HOW DID I GET INTO A FUCKING ATTIC? I don't have any legs! by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/30/2013, 5:02pm PDT NEW
                                Would you offer your chopped off legs as a kickstarter reward? NT by Worm 05/30/2013, 7:54pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Correction by blackwater 07/01/2013, 1:15am PDT NEW
                    No shit? by Eurotrash 07/01/2013, 2:33am PDT NEW
                        Well I fucked that up *SWEEPS EVERYTHING OFF DESK NT by Eurotrash 07/01/2013, 2:34am PDT NEW
                Re: $100 to TDARCOS if he joins ChristianSingles.com and posts the replies he ge by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 05/29/2013, 5:37pm PDT NEW
        You could have looked up "Misandry" in less than 1% of the time it took you to NT by write that unreadable mess 05/29/2013, 11:28pm PDT NEW
    You can never have enough Patrice O'Neal by Mischief Maker 05/29/2013, 8:35am PDT NEW
 
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