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by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/10/2013, 10:21am PDT |
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Original Subject: Re: I wanna buy Xenonauts, but I know nothing beyond its dev's ambitions
The game makers are essentially using the ability for a particular copy of a game to be 'locked' to an account and requiring authentication of the account to be able to play the game as a way to get around the U.S. Supreme Court's 1908 decision in Bobbs Merill Co. v. Straus. Most people don't bother to set up a separate account for each game (which, as I note below, is a pain-in-the-ass to have to do); were buyers to do that, separate each game to a different account it would defeat this whole thing, since you could simply move the game to a new machine (probably uninstall it), then sign in to the account for that game from the new machine.
I'm presuming that the account feature on XBox Live - which I have never used an XBox so I know not how it works - is similar to the way Steam does, you can install the game any number of places, but you can only play it from one single place at a time, which you get the ability to do so by logging into their server and be authenticated. I pointed out the flaw with this in a video I did more than three years ago - that there is a link Jonsey put up on the main website here - that if the company decides to stop running the servers or goes out of business (the way Hostess did, which means until someone else buys the asset, nobody gets to eat Twinkies until the bankruptcy court decides the issue), you're hosed. Your game is now worthless and thanks to DRM you can't play the game that you paid for.
So now, if you want to sell a game, you have to sell your account (and all the games attached to that account), which the publisher probably claims you can't do. I'll bet there's a provision in the EULA for all of these on-line systems that your account is non-transferable. Whether that would stand up to legal challenge is another matter. The fact remains, they're using this 'feature' of account-locking to deprive buyers of a game of the resale rights they've held for 105 years.
The Supreme Court decided back in 1908 in the case of Bobbs Merill Co. v. Straus that the publisher of a work has the right to control that work's distribution with the first sale only. After that, as long as you part company with the copy, you can give it away, loan it out, or sell it to someone else. (There are nuances and exceptions which aren't really applicable in this case, that's how lobbyists make their money.) The publisher has no right to any money from this resale, and has no right to say anything about what you charge, whom you sell it to, or anything else. You bought that copy, you own that copy, and you can transfer it to a third party. This was why publishers tried to claim when you bought a game, you only bought the disk and all you have is a license for the game, it was not a sale. Well, if you uninstalled the game, you are now no longer using a license, and you can effectively sell it. But mandatory authorization changes all that.
Now, with the ability of publishers or distributors to 'lock' a copy to an account, and failure of users to be aware that if they ever want to resell the game to someone else that they will have to use a separate account - which, of course, is a pain in the ass - for each game, is allowing publishers and distributors to 'get away' with defeating the "first-sale doctrine" right of transfer that the user has had on a purchase of a game or any other copyrighted material that has been sold for 105 years.
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I wanna buy Xenonauts, but I know nothing beyond its dev's ambitions NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/03/2013, 12:01am PDT 
What do you wanna know? NT by Xenonauts Expert! 06/03/2013, 2:43pm PDT 
I got the alpha on steam by jeep 06/08/2013, 11:33am PDT 
Re: I got the alpha on steam by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/09/2013, 10:17am PDT 
Much like Game of Thrones, it'll never be finished. by WITTGENSTEIN 06/09/2013, 11:42am PDT 
Not meeting your milestones is not a real thing tho.... NT by Peter "Meeps" Vagina 06/09/2013, 12:13pm PDT 
Here at Caltrops, we've already covered Xeonnauts development Hell. by WITTGENSTEIN 06/09/2013, 12:59pm PDT 
Haha, that train wreck of a thread? That made me laugh. by Eurotrash 06/09/2013, 1:15pm PDT 
Re: Haha, that train wreck of a thread? That made me laugh. by Souffle of Pain 06/09/2013, 3:10pm PDT 
The game was supposed to be out by December 2012. Eurotrash can't read. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 06/09/2013, 5:04pm PDT 
Re: The game was supposed to be out by December 2012. Eurotrash can't read. by Peter "Meeps" Vagina 06/09/2013, 5:50pm PDT 
Christ, Pinback, you are lowering this place's collective IQ. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 06/09/2013, 6:01pm PDT 
Re: Christ, Pinback, you are lowering this place's collective IQ. by Peter "Meeps" Vagina 06/09/2013, 6:30pm PDT 
I have not participated in this thread. by pinback 06/10/2013, 12:52pm PDT 
Oh, DECEMBER 2012?!?! by Souffle of Pain 06/09/2013, 6:35pm PDT 
That's racist NT by Eurotrash 06/10/2013, 3:32am PDT 
Re: I got the alpha on steam by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/10/2013, 4:46pm PDT 
This is all done to get around the first-sale doctrine by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/10/2013, 10:21am PDT 
Somebody gimme a tl;dr. Lemme guess: legal bullshit? NT by Eurotrash 06/10/2013, 11:46am PDT 
Someone asked about how Xenonauts, and he replied with ten pages of by pinback 06/10/2013, 12:57pm PDT 
Re: Someone asked about how Xenonauts, and he replied with ten pages of by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/16/2014, 4:52pm PDT 
Well, now I HAVE to know. by pinback 06/10/2013, 1:01pm PDT 
Click. "It was five. Now you know." - Dirty Harry in 2nd Movie NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/10/2013, 1:38pm PDT 
Quit trying to be funny, Tdarcos. NT by Souffle of Pain 06/10/2013, 2:52pm PDT 
BOOM. Paul wins again by movie quote KO. by Eurotrash 06/10/2013, 2:59pm PDT 
FABIO! Make that happen. NT by You know you can. 06/10/2013, 3:30pm PDT 
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