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Elder Scrolls and Deus Ex were always fps, Fallout 3 basically a mod of Oblivion by jeep 07/26/2013, 6:04pm PDT
Game companies think they can reboot franchises like movies, but it turns out people are as much fans of gameplay as they are of setting.

Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 are both 'games' and both in the same setting but they are not similar the way the Sam Raimi film Spiderman and the newer Amazing Spiderman are. Those are still both the same kind of thing so fans carry over, but FO2 and FO3 are basically 2 different media so fans don't carry over.

I know "media" isn't the perfect word there but I think "genre" is the wrong word to separate the two. Modern usage of "genre" implies similarity in narrative and often setting and so they are "the same narrative genre" but they are not the same "type or kind" of game. In most key ways FO2 and FO3 are more different from each other than FO3 and Spiderman, so the scale of the difference seems to call for "media."

Now that I think about it old greek rhetorical terms might fit better here altogether.
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Let's get a report on this by fabio 07/24/2013, 1:19pm PDT NEW
    Bought it, will report back tomorrow night I guess. by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/24/2013, 2:10pm PDT NEW
    I'll let you know NT by WITTGENSTEIN 07/24/2013, 2:51pm PDT NEW
    Harlequin is only supposed to have one ear, shitheads! by MM 07/24/2013, 4:15pm PDT NEW
        I am expecting a great graphics, good game play, terrible writing NT by Matthew Holland 07/24/2013, 4:59pm PDT NEW
            RPS's verdict - by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 1:51pm PDT NEW
    if you're not all busy prepurchasing The Bureau that is NT by fabio 07/25/2013, 2:33am PDT NEW
    Pinback says it does not support save anywhere NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/25/2013, 1:30pm PDT NEW
        Nope, checkpoints only NT by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 1:31pm PDT NEW
            And like, checkpoints every 20 minutes. NT by pinback 07/25/2013, 1:37pm PDT NEW
                Oh well, at least it's not a game about cutting-edge technology. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/25/2013, 1:56pm PDT NEW
                    First Impression based on Char-Gen by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                        I'm hooked. Positive! NT by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 8:09pm PDT NEW
                            Good god is it 12:45am already? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 10:50pm PDT NEW
    I've put about 5 hours into it by jeep 07/25/2013, 4:47pm PDT NEW
        The new char-gen takes some getting used to. by WITTGENSTEIN 07/25/2013, 5:06pm PDT NEW
            that part matches 4th ed NT by jeep 07/25/2013, 10:57pm PDT NEW
                Eh, I can live with that. by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 6:06am PDT NEW
                    Re: Eh, I can live with that. by jeep 07/26/2013, 6:36am PDT NEW
                        Matrix runs slow tabletop games to a crawl, so I'm not surprised. by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 6:53am PDT NEW
                            oh god the unsolvable shadowrun problem by jeep 07/26/2013, 8:14am PDT NEW
                                Blackjack's answer to that was appoint a co-GM to handle the Matrix part 1-on-1 by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 8:44am PDT NEW
                                    I was always a fan of the Genesis version by Lurker 95453 07/28/2013, 6:57am PDT NEW
    Really enjoying it so far by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/25/2013, 10:52pm PDT NEW
        Re: Really enjoying it so far by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 7:23am PDT NEW
            Re: Really enjoying it so far, also I just finished it at the 13 hour mark by jeep 07/26/2013, 8:23am PDT NEW
                It wasn't a fait accompli (see: fallout >2, deus ex, elder scrolls) by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 8:29am PDT NEW
                    Elder Scrolls and Deus Ex were always fps, Fallout 3 basically a mod of Oblivion by jeep 07/26/2013, 6:04pm PDT NEW
                I hit a wall at the UB facility. by WITTGENSTEIN 07/26/2013, 10:45pm PDT NEW
                    no I was near-broke too, it doesn't matter by jeep 07/27/2013, 4:21am PDT NEW
 
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