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Why critics love Mountain, but Steam users are calling it "worthless" by PCGamer by skip 08/22/2014, 5:23pm PDT
Another article fretting over the split in opinions over these non-game indie games.

There are positive Steam reviews, too, but many are facetious. Some customers are irate. Why the hell is the media so fascinated by this $1 game which advertises “no controls"—a game about a mountain that listlessly spins and talks about its feelings and collects detritus with little regard for the player? How is that interesting, or even a game, or worth any amount of money?


How is this different than a screensaver? Nobody's ever answered this. But is this some sort of art work where the goal is to stretch the definition of game to its breaking point?

Mountain isn’t in an established genre and there’s no agreed-upon measurement for its success. There’s no lexicon of words like “tactical” and “immersive” to consult. Writers like it because it hasn’t been written about yet. Writers are looking for a story, and Mountain is a new story. It’s critically relevant, like an unusual pop music trend.


Fair enough. I've said before that games made strictly for critics and ruminating over are fine but why charge for it then? Why put it on Steam? How is it a game? This applies to any of those interactive toys like Proteus. Mountain seems like one of the lesser offenders since they're only charging $1 for it.

Dismissing Mountain as "a screensaver” is a valid criticism from a consumer with perfectly normal expectations about what a game should be. I don’t fault anyone for being disappointed by Mountain. It has no win or fail state—it’s only a ‘game’ because calling it an ‘ambient interactive experience’ feels ostentatious. But the writers praising it, myself included, don’t see Mountain solely as a $1 entertainment product: it’s a story about subverting game conventions, and the animator who worked on Her, and emotion, and big questions about existence and computers and mountains. It might even be more interesting to talk about than to play, and maybe that’s the point, and—see? Now I’m doing it.


I'm not picking on the article since it's one of the better written ones about this sort of thing and doesn't say people who dislike these games are horrible but subverting game conventions means it's still a game. This isn't.


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Why Do So Many People Hate Indie Games? by IGN by skip 08/08/2014, 10:25pm PDT NEW
    The whole value proposition is stupid to begin with. by Jerry Whorebach 08/08/2014, 11:52pm PDT NEW
        Oh man, some of those numbers are way off. IGNORE ANY NUMBERS IN THIS POST. by Jerry Whorebach 08/09/2014, 6:23am PDT NEW
        This thread does bring up a critical reason for why people hate indie games by serial malcontent 08/09/2014, 8:08am PDT NEW
            He didn't save all the kids. NT by Worm,Ed Gein 08/09/2014, 8:49am PDT NEW
    Here are some random comments. by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/09/2014, 8:02am PDT NEW
        Re: Here are some random comments. by serial malcontent 08/09/2014, 8:14am PDT NEW
    Re: Why Do So Many People Hate Indie Games? by IGN by Souffle of Pain 08/09/2014, 10:09am PDT NEW
        I've started relying more on video reviews too by skip 08/09/2014, 5:29pm PDT NEW
            That's the real reason companies try to shut down Let's Play videos by fabio 08/10/2014, 4:42pm PDT NEW
            That's the real reason companies try to shut down Let's Play videos by fabio 08/10/2014, 4:46pm PDT NEW
    Count me as someone that never wants to play another sidescrolling platformer by E. L. Koba 08/09/2014, 6:46pm PDT NEW
        Understandable, though to me the type of platformer matters a lot. by Jerry Whorebach 08/09/2014, 8:07pm PDT NEW
            That's a touch unfair by skip 08/09/2014, 11:41pm PDT NEW
                Wait, aren't you the guy who takes narrative dance classes twice a month? by Jerry Whorebach 08/10/2014, 5:56pm PDT NEW
    I liked Dear Escher... by blackwater 08/14/2014, 10:33pm PDT NEW
    Why critics love Mountain, but Steam users are calling it "worthless" by PCGamer by skip 08/22/2014, 5:23pm PDT NEW
        Re: Why critics love Mountain, but Steam users are calling it "worthless" by PCG by E. L. Koba 08/22/2014, 6:21pm PDT NEW
        People used to pay money for interesting screensavers. by Fullofkittens 08/22/2014, 7:27pm PDT NEW
            Re: People used to pay money for interesting screensavers. by Butterface Loving Lollerson 08/22/2014, 7:41pm PDT NEW
            I feel like we as a species solved this riddle a long time ago. by Jerry Whorebach 08/22/2014, 8:42pm PDT NEW
                Digital leisure is a good term for it. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/22/2014, 9:53pm PDT NEW
 
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