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by Mischief Maker 03/23/2016, 1:16pm PDT |
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In 2000, I thought Al Gore was a big phony. It seemed his campaign could say nothing good about him and all they did was tell horror stories about a potential George Bush jr. presidency. So I decided I wasn't going to vote out of fear/was going to send a message/all the rest, and voted for Ralph Nader.
My choice did not have the intended effect. Not only did George Bush jr. prove to be significantly worse than an additional four years of Bill Clinton, the Democratic party failed to receive any message from the Nader votes, despite being enough to flip Florida. In fact, a few months after the presidential election I went to a local Dem meeting to help a friend in the local elections, and the big message being trumpeted by the Dem muckity mucks was that the country had shifted to the right and the Dems better follow suit.
So please explain to me why the situation today is different than in 2000? What are the benefits you expect from this course of action that failed to materialize in 2000? And most importantly, how will a continuing senator Bernie Sanders benefit as he attempts to pass progressive legislation past Donald Trump's veto stamp? |
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Anyone else voting Sanders but not Clinton? by Kenji Carter 03/23/2016, 10:24am PDT 
Sanders and then Clinton-with-grumpycat-face here NT by Fullofkittens 03/23/2016, 1:00pm PDT
Could you explain the benefits of your proposed strategy, please? by Mischief Maker 03/23/2016, 1:16pm PDT
That's the same attitude Zseni always took on elections NT by and she was a dumb cunt 03/23/2016, 1:48pm PDT
But not an anonymous pussy. Important point. NT by Kenny Mayne 03/24/2016, 8:26am PDT
Thank you for reporting them. Poster has been issued demerits for anon abuse NT by Bradley Svetka 03/24/2016, 4:15pm PDT
Devil you know. by Worm 03/23/2016, 5:33pm PDT
It reminds me of this Bill Burr rant: by Mischief Maker 03/23/2016, 6:35pm PDT
It's Bernie's day off! by ja 03/29/2016, 7:25am PDT
Re: It's Bernie's day off! by Mysterio 03/29/2016, 7:50am PDT
Trump supporters hate being reminded that Trump isn't actually Hitler by Worm 03/29/2016, 4:25pm PDT
Re: It's Bernie's day off! by ja 03/30/2016, 7:41am PDT
Ghomeshi is Persian idiot by Vested Id 03/30/2016, 8:54am PDT
Trump will win whether you like it or not because by Spiderman. 03/29/2016, 12:51pm PDT
My body is ready NT by Body status: ready 03/29/2016, 1:16pm PDT
thankfully you've been wrong about literally everything ever NT by in your entire life 03/29/2016, 5:09pm PDT
Credit where it's due. Trump supporters do make better memes. NT by The BLM/protests one hurts the most 03/29/2016, 7:33pm PDT
A political candidate hearing out grievances rather than punching protestors NT by sure sounds like a character flaw! 03/29/2016, 11:40pm PDT
Re: It's Bernie's day off! by ja 04/01/2016, 11:20pm PDT
How do you guarantee you'll never get AIDS or be a Cuckold? NT by DIE ALONE 04/02/2016, 5:38am PDT
I've come around a bit on this. by Kenji Carter 03/29/2016, 7:12pm PDT
This is a painful conversation because I agree with you. by Mischief Maker 03/30/2016, 8:47pm PDT
Was he banned or not? by Mysterious Stranger 03/31/2016, 9:01pm PDT
I mean the link was being deceptive. Fortinbras was just being dumb. NT by MM 04/01/2016, 5:48pm PDT
Re: Was he banned or not? by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/04/2016, 10:57am PDT
You banned my workplace IP -- great work there, cybersleuth by WITTGENSTEIN 04/04/2016, 3:13pm PDT
Oh god, I HOPE that wasn't really Ray! NT by Mischief Maker 04/04/2016, 3:21pm PDT
"Dedicated employee" was another term everyone used for Fortinbras. NT by Mysterio Lollerson 07/09/2016, 12:09pm PDT
deficated annoyee NT by gruman 07/09/2016, 12:48pm PDT
Trump will make the most interesting president in decades by Oom Shnibble 04/01/2016, 2:07am PDT
There's a good reason "thanks, Obama" has been a punchline for 8 years by fabio 04/01/2016, 2:28am PDT
Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? NT by Mysterio 04/01/2016, 2:28pm PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by Oom Shnibble 04/04/2016, 2:26pm PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by laudablepuss 04/04/2016, 2:39pm PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by Oom Shnibble 04/05/2016, 2:50am PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by Mischief Maker 04/05/2016, 5:36am PDT
I mean if you want disabled people all eliminated in a dumpster fire just say so by Worm 04/05/2016, 7:25am PDT
All reasoning goes out the window and the handwringing starts by Oom Shnibble 04/05/2016, 2:53pm PDT
Then we all agree, I think by laudablepuss 04/05/2016, 3:07pm PDT
Everyone has to have insurance now, so what the fuck are you talking about? by Worm 04/05/2016, 3:53pm PDT
Reasoning in a time of cholera NT by fabio 04/05/2016, 3:59pm PDT
The idea that routine healthcare should be handled by insurance is laughable. by blackwater 04/05/2016, 4:29pm PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by Mischief Maker 04/04/2016, 3:26pm PDT
Obligatory by Mischief Maker 04/04/2016, 3:27pm PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by Vested Id 04/05/2016, 7:43am PDT
Re: Ha ha, yeah, Obama's been turrible. What? by blackwater 04/05/2016, 1:58pm PDT
George Bush kept us safe. NT by Marco Rubio, yes, I actually said t 04/05/2016, 2:26pm PDT
April Fools? NT by Mischief Maker 04/01/2016, 4:34pm PDT
Why Trump is still going to win, part 6,000,001 by ja 04/02/2016, 2:18pm PDT
Bernie supporters don't understand their own desires. by ja 04/03/2016, 3:23pm PDT
ja is absolutely right about this. It's a huge problem for liberalism. NT by Mysterio 04/03/2016, 3:59pm PDT
So Bernie wanting cases out of college court and into federal court is bad why? NT by Mischief Maker 04/03/2016, 7:14pm PDT
Whoops, I skimmed. by Mischief Maker 04/03/2016, 7:25pm PDT
ja is right: Bernie has good policies! NT by Shit what just happened? 04/04/2016, 10:57am PDT
The ultimate troll that finally made me kill myself! NT by LIEberal 04/05/2016, 2:18pm PDT
Just got back from Bernie's rally tonight! by Mischief Maker 04/03/2016, 7:32pm PDT
Just voted this morning! by Mischief Maker 04/05/2016, 7:35am PDT
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