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Re: The frontpage of the internet by Vested Id 08/05/2016, 12:02am PDT
that we want you to see wrote:

Marketing was trying to tap into hate or notoriety for a bump? Only Sony, and the director, can say whether the strategy was worth it or not (although I doubt either are willing to be honest in public).


They clearly were; the block-booked ads on Comedy Central use the headline from the NYTimes review "Girls Rule. Women Are Funny. Get Over It.", written by Manohla "the movie industry is failing women" Dargis. Every single review mentions the negative response to the film, usually safely attributing it to "ghostbros". It was a relief to find out that even Melissa McCarthy says the boy problem was overstated.

I don't mean to pretend there isn't a lot to criticize about the video. They say Sony was controlling comments on the trailer, then claim stats that show there is a relatively low number of negative comments. I am ready to embrace the idea that the original Ghostbusters crew think the new film is garbage, which would make sense based on the nature of their cameos, but the evidence is questionable. If memory serves, they didn't bother to address the IMDB reviews. They all but call it a conspiracy.

And the Sarah Jessica Parker joke is just an acceptable online form of misogyny. I do not understand why people fight the fact that she was anything other than "horse lady" her entire career. She was an ingenue for a while, then I guess once she got too old to be playing Sex in Sex and the City people thought it was now justified to act like everybody always held her looks in contempt. Yes, Ed Wood called her horse face, she has a face you might think to describe as a horse face if you wanted to insult her, it doesn't mean people always went around describing her that way, which of course they didn't.

I'm having a hard time squaring my own feelings about the movie - which has godawful filmmaking as well as laffs - and my feeling about the entire apparatus that pushed hard for a widespread mainstream acceptance of the reboot on any terms, even if it means implying that resisting makes you a problem child. Stuff like the video getting kicked out of /r/movies point to that being a larger social response to the movie, which is bad. I should't listen to Redditisms like "social signaling" but the fact is that does seem like a relevant point to bring up. I don't know. I don't even really like the RLM guys most of the time but I'm happy they decided to take up a side that it feels like hasn't been argued very well.

The person I agree with the most is Peter Sciretta at /Film, who said on the podcast that he was worried it was just Ghostbusters with girls, he felt that's what it ultimately was and not much else, and he doesn't understand why the hell Kate McKinnon, who seemed to me like she was really nervous, was behaving so weirdly. You can play the game of What Drug Is Holtzmann On In This Scene, for which I counted meth (grinding teeth), ecstasy (dancing, getting handsy) and cocaine (tripping over her words in a speech at the end). This is THE HERO WE ALL NEED.
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/r/movies keeps removing latest Ghostbusters critique (the Science man one) by Vested Id 08/04/2016, 8:54pm PDT NEW
    The frontpage of the internet by that we want you to see 08/04/2016, 10:04pm PDT NEW
        Re: The frontpage of the internet by Vested Id 08/05/2016, 12:02am PDT NEW
            Ha, they altered the Bill Murray clip by Vested Id 08/05/2016, 12:45am PDT NEW
                You mean RLM altered it? by fabio 08/05/2016, 3:52pm PDT NEW
                    They fooled me by Vested Id 08/05/2016, 6:34pm PDT NEW
                        If your opinions hinge on a satirical film review youtube channel maybe you NT by Need to think about your poor life 08/05/2016, 7:23pm PDT NEW
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bZnqyE14RY by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 08/05/2016, 12:57am PDT NEW
                Haha nice one, fake tacos NT by Eurotrash 08/06/2016, 10:16am PDT NEW
            Perhaps you would prefer it done this way? by Mischief Maker 08/06/2016, 12:02pm PDT NEW
    What a piece of shit that guy is. RLM is always awesome. NT by Mysterio Lollerson 08/04/2016, 11:07pm PDT NEW
    "But this isn't a review, it's a mean op-ed." Haha. by skip 08/05/2016, 11:05am PDT NEW
        "I've worked in the private sector...they expect results. :(" NT by the one with the whales 08/06/2016, 6:18am PDT NEW
        More pandering by skip 08/06/2016, 3:19pm PDT NEW
            If you can engage in planar travel can't you do some sex change magic? NT by Worm 08/06/2016, 5:23pm PDT NEW
                http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=178058 NT by skip 08/07/2016, 6:52am PDT NEW
            I would like an apology to both me and my mom for Dead Space. by Dream Cast 08/06/2016, 6:09pm PDT NEW
                Psyops, I mean, the PR dept. by Miss Teryo 08/06/2016, 7:23pm PDT NEW
                    Oh, I though you meant Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy for PS2 and Game Cube by Dream Cast 08/08/2016, 5:19am PDT NEW
                        It's like this by Nobody's attacking you here 08/08/2016, 9:54pm PDT NEW
                            Did you ever wonder what it would be like if you and I were in a comic strip? by Dream Cast 08/08/2016, 11:53pm PDT NEW
            Wait, straight up autism? Is that even allowed in a card game? NT by Eurotrash 08/07/2016, 1:40am PDT NEW
        Okay, I saw the damned thing (spoilers) by good one politico 11/28/2016, 3:59pm PST NEW
            Re: Okay, I saw the damned thing (spoilers) by laudablepuss 11/28/2016, 4:00pm PST NEW
            I'm with you by Vested Id 11/28/2016, 5:17pm PST NEW
                "Ghostbusters remake was okay", "Dawn of the Dead remake was mediorce" by fabio 11/29/2016, 12:16am PST NEW
                    DotD remake was overrated shit by Vested Id 11/29/2016, 4:14am PST NEW
                        It was a good popcorn movie. NT by Kenny Mayne 11/29/2016, 7:06am PST NEW
                            "good popcorn movie" NT by Letterboxd autocomplete 11/29/2016, 7:57am PST NEW
            Re: Okay, I saw the damned thing (spoilers) by This is correct 11/29/2016, 7:56am PST NEW
            My Ghostbusters review by Fullofkittens 11/29/2016, 8:01am PST NEW
 
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