Caltrops - Balance of Power - Re: Failed scare tactics

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by skip 10/21/2016, 10:22am PDT

Vested Id wrote:

What does this have to do with "scare tactics"?

Because they're quotes with a headline of how she hates Sanders supporters, which isn't true. She understands them. She and Bernie had 90% of the same policies.

You seem to think that something like good universal healthcare, something every country of our class has, is impossible to make happen here, I don't get it. First, saying it's expensive is kind of stupid, healthcare is a cost that has to be taken care of somehow someway, better to institutionalize it than continue socializing the costs by dumping the uninsured on skid row.

Yes, ideals. We all have them. Maybe Clinton doesn't. But nobody wants people dying in the streets. It's bad for tourism. But how to get there? Ballooning Medicare and getting rid of all copays would have expanded the federal budget by over 50% while the word "ration" was never mentioned in the proposal. Maybe those details don't matter to you, but they certainly matter to me and the rest of the country. It comes back to accountability. You don't get to say somebody is cruel and lacks ideals just because they see the inherent problems of promising shit that is expensive and will bite is in the ass later without at least admitting that's the case.

Political change does not demand being especially intelligent; will, organization, making your voice heard up and down the ballot are much more important. I guess we should all believe that millennials are just idiots, very soothing.

Political change absolutely does require understanding the consequences of your votes and actions. I don't have time to understand all the minutiea of laws and legislation but whoever is in charge should. Emotions and ideals are great. But what do you get when you're all ideas and idealism? Star Citizen. Even Trump's expensive, ineffective wall is cut from the same cloth. You want to sell me a way of reaching an ideal? Show me that you've put some thought into the consequences of your proposals. I'm a bitter and former revolutionary and nothing will exhaust your patience for revolutions like going to a local Marxist meeting.

If it makes you feel any better, I think Boomers are more retarded than Millennials. They created this system to satisfy their conflicting and fractured ideals and both the right and the left were left dissatisfied and frustrated. GenX was too busy being "ironic" in the 90s to do anything political. Millennials should absolutely be angry and vote in huge numbers But then they should follow their anger to the logical extreme and demand an entirely new system instead of creating new social welfare programs to bridge gaps without accepting the logical, often financial, consequences, just like Boomers did.