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The anarchist reddit thread by skip 04/16/2017, 8:17am PDT
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/65m67k/the_troubling_implications_of_the_conflict_in/

Hey guys,

I hope you're all doing well today! I got home a couple hours ago after the riots and here are some thoughts that I would love to share with you guys.

We (ANTIFA) as a unit were so uncoordinated. We got choked off and split in two in the streets. We tried making a push back but no one was willing to fight INCLUDING ME which will be explained in a little bit. We had no strategy, no coordination and no communication. Everyone was in a sense on their own out there even though we were all together. I had to take my leave when I got pepper sprayed in the face and smoked out. I was holding the big black banner that some people have come to see and it seemed like no one was willing to stand with me and my 3 other comades who were holding the banner. Everyone was off doing there own thing which was VERY anti productive. That being said we got a couple good shots in. Some alt-right scum tried to rush us but we quickly retaliated and ganged up on them. However when we went into the streets, that's where it started going downhill. We almost got pushed up against the wall. Our efforts to form a true black bloc were almost non existant and the out right agression from the fascists prevented us from getting anything meaningful done.

Now onto why I was scared to fight. This was my first protest/riot and I was terrified. I like to think that I'm a really peaceful person and I am against the idea of violence so whenever I see someone get beat up, I would charge in but then proceed to freeze up. I have a feeling that some others were like this and I think it would be awesome to have some kind of motivation other than the thought of "If you a see a Nazi, punch him." This is just my thinking though.

ideas on how to fix these issues would simply be organizing a meet up before the protest to get a basic understanding of possible roles we would have or simple tactics to prevent a repeat of what happened today. I have contacted the Facebook page offering help in any way that I can. Let's hope they respond.


They should have passed out fliers the last week in migrant and non white communities detailing the very real existential threat fascism poses to their communities. It seems like 90% of the protestors were white. Why?


The only thing that this shows is that fascism in America exists only as mindless violence and is completely politically impotent, there little more then street gang's.


So close to self-awareness.

I think it would be beneficial to tone down the rhetoric and the violence. Sometimes the better part of valor is being the one that doesn't fight. This is ultimately a battle of ideas, we need to be on the right side of history and winer hearts and minds, I think these sorts of battles leave us looking more reactionary and somewhat hypocritical. The how of where we end up is as important as the why.

Last time we listened to this rhetoric Mussolini took over.


Yet so far away.
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I don't think I thought my brilliant plan through.... by Mischief Muppet 04/15/2017, 5:41pm PDT NEW
    Re: I don't think I thought my brilliant plan through.... by Mysterio 04/15/2017, 10:20pm PDT NEW
        Yeah, he totally got us. Now hold still..... NT by Neo-Nazi with a golf club 04/15/2017, 10:52pm PDT NEW
            What's is it like to be this morally bankrupt? by Worm 04/16/2017, 8:55am PDT NEW
                See first post. And eat it, faggot. NT by Neo-Nazi with a golf club 04/16/2017, 9:26am PDT NEW
                    Once the violence you dislike breeds violence you like then you drop the act? NT by Worm 04/16/2017, 9:42am PDT NEW
                        Yeah those guys clad in all black were just minding their own business and by DEFINITELY didn't show for a fight 04/16/2017, 9:51am PDT NEW
                            Oh like showing up where you know a bunch of antfa will be in a trump hat? by Worm 04/16/2017, 10:01am PDT NEW
                                I certainly wasn't the one claiming moral superiority by MoralHighgroundMaker 04/16/2017, 10:12am PDT NEW
                                    Do you really think I'm running around the streets with a bandana on? by Worm 04/16/2017, 10:27am PDT NEW
                                Chick talks shit about taking Nazi scalps, gets hit by Worm white knights her like a cuck 04/16/2017, 11:52am PDT NEW
                                    Man this shit is so easy to call. by Worm 04/16/2017, 12:00pm PDT NEW
                                        I'd rather Berkeley PD did its fucking job by Mysterio 04/16/2017, 12:12pm PDT NEW
                                            What sympathy again? Can you quote something you dipshit? by Worm 04/16/2017, 12:28pm PDT NEW
                                                Sorry I thought you meant sympathy for the antfa people. by Worm 04/16/2017, 12:39pm PDT NEW
                                                    Always easier to argue with your own preconceptions by All is Faggot 04/16/2017, 2:14pm PDT NEW
                                    Also "this was legitimate self defense against my imminent scalping" haha, what? by Worm 04/16/2017, 12:11pm PDT NEW
                                Looks like someone should have stayed in their safe space. NT by Oom Shnibble 04/17/2017, 2:32pm PDT NEW
                                    Less people would be choking on my shit covered cock if they took your advice NT by Worm 04/17/2017, 3:36pm PDT NEW
                                        oh re: if you're talking about the gif lol whoops by Worm 04/17/2017, 3:38pm PDT NEW
                                            To be fair by the to be fair guy 04/18/2017, 5:34am PDT NEW
                                            Hahah, is that the same loser that got belted in the face? by Mysterio Lollerson 04/18/2017, 7:18pm PDT NEW
                                            My dad always said if you're gonna hurt someone, try not to talk about it first. by Words to Live By 04/18/2017, 9:37pm PDT NEW
                                                THAN? NT by Caltrops season finale cliffhanger 04/19/2017, 9:30am PDT NEW
                                                    Who cumshot Venus Rosealma? NT by Mysterio 04/19/2017, 11:26am PDT NEW
                        Hasn't that always been their thing? by skip 04/16/2017, 10:28am PDT NEW
    The anarchist reddit thread by skip 04/16/2017, 8:17am PDT NEW
        Is irony dead? by CattleHumper 04/17/2017, 12:48pm PDT NEW
    Now I'm an anarchist, too? NT by MM 04/16/2017, 8:46am PDT NEW
        You're whatever the guy who desperately needs a win decides you are. by Worm 04/16/2017, 8:53am PDT NEW
            Worm four months ago: Fuck Nazis and fuck anyone who is against punching them NT by Worm now: How can you be so cruuuel 04/16/2017, 9:30am PDT NEW
                How pathetic do you have to be to make up shit on a site no one reads? NT by Worm 04/16/2017, 9:44am PDT NEW
    oh wait new deets by Worm 04/17/2017, 4:44pm PDT NEW
        And she's a hairy cunt fetish porn actress NT by The story gets better 04/17/2017, 6:57pm PDT NEW
            It'd be funnier if it was super heroine reverse domination NT by Worm 04/17/2017, 9:01pm PDT NEW
    Oh here this one is absolutely fucking unacceptable by Worm 04/17/2017, 4:53pm PDT NEW
        edit function please by Worm 04/17/2017, 4:54pm PDT NEW
    Well that's Berkeley. How about Austin? by Mischief Maker 04/17/2017, 8:56pm PDT NEW
        Vic Berger has me blocked for some reason? by Worm 04/17/2017, 9:41pm PDT NEW
            They have scripts that block you depending on who you follow NT by Thanks GG 04/18/2017, 10:18am PDT NEW
        Tag that sort of graphic violence as NSFW NT by skip 04/19/2017, 7:00pm PDT NEW
 
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