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by laudablepuss 08/11/2019, 11:11am PDT |
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exhausted but hopeful wrote:
laudablepuss wrote:
Your border analysis is as backward as it's possible to be. His claims about a crisis were regarding an "invasion" of immigrants. That's not the same thing as stuffing them into rooms until there's no room to move?
This isn’t...entirely accurate. But, I understand the confusion, because it was certainly framed that way by...some political party or other. Can’t for the life of me remember which one, though. And then, of course, it was repeated ad nauseum by...some media outlets. Again, the names slip my mind. :(
There are pictures.
Trump was talking about our inability to accommodate such a large influx of people while Brian Stelter and others in the media poo-poohed it as a nothingburger (after all, the caravan was still south of the Mexican border—Guatemala, I think?). Then lots more talking happened, and then, eventually, he characterized it as an invasion. I would have thought a career wheeler & dealer would be more diplomatic, but his characterization...isn’t entirely without justification.
That's why he sent the military down there?
Re: "both sides" -- you want to let him off the hook here, and this is more troublesome than I want to get into. Keeping my arguments simple and obvious is my goal. But I will say that both parties condemned him after that press conference. You can take this as a win I guess, I'm not going to get into it.
But hey, we live in a country right now where Trump is flying flags at half mast until 8/8 because “H” is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and so “8/8” is CLEARLY a standin for “Heil Hitler.” I’m inundated with this shit, I don’t have time to verify every wacked-out claim made by our media firefighter watchdogs (I think I saw this claim made by an MSNBC contributor? I might be wrong on that, though--it’s been reported and repeated widely, but I don’t recall the original attribution), and I clearly cannot just take them at their word. Is it any wonder that the right dismiss claims of Trump’s malfeasance out of hand? Is it any wonder that I’m exhausted bless my little heart?
Where are the articles that leave out the exact wording of what that guy said, and his subsequent clarification to Ann Coulter? You must have found one I guess.
Can you at least entertain the possibility that Trump supporters aren’t all unequivocally dyed-in-the-wool racists, baby-eaters, and puppy-murderers, that there just might be some nuance there that has slipped by? Do you know how alienating it is to be repeatedly accused of having beliefs you don’t possess (or have those beliefs completely misrepresented), and the only way to set the record straight is to go all the fuckin’ way back to 2000 to present context for the initial false premise the accusation was based on, and then walk week by week through news reports to the present day, only to be dismissed out of hand by the media, by our “leaders,” by our neighbors, simply because we can’t line up our ideologies point-for-point?
No idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about Trump being unfit for office. |
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Multiple mass shootings. Republicans blame videogames. Rinse, repeat. NT by MM 08/06/2019, 7:46am PDT
Your terrible taste in games makes me want to shoot up a DSA conference sometime NT by blame MMs shit taste 08/06/2019, 1:17pm PDT
Multiple mass shootings. Democrats blame... The Orange Man! Rinse, repeat. by Roop 08/09/2019, 6:53am PDT
You are quite insane NT by laudablepuss 08/09/2019, 7:05am PDT
Doesn't the Orange Kool Aid taste bitter after so long? NT by Roop 08/09/2019, 7:46am PDT
Please by laudablepuss 08/09/2019, 8:52am PDT
Why is he insane? Honest question. NT by Ichabod 08/09/2019, 10:10am PDT
Nobody can tell what's crazy anymore, is that it? by laudablepuss 08/09/2019, 11:49am PDT
I mean, you think all the partisan bs you believe in is non-partisan, so at leas NT by t we’ve got *you* pegged 08/10/2019, 2:56pm PDT
Why is it partsan by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 7:06pm PDT
Sorry for typos, gur gur gur NT by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 7:07pm PDT
Pence would be infinitely worse. by Mischief Maker 08/10/2019, 7:51pm PDT
“barely qualified rapist frat boy” by see, perfect example 08/10/2019, 8:51pm PDT
Worse than Beck, he had no reputation for sanity NT by Vested Id 08/10/2019, 8:58pm PDT
Beck is sane says the forum retard by Mysterio Prime 08/10/2019, 10:34pm PDT
Re: Beck is sane says the forum retard by Mysterio 08/11/2019, 1:25am PDT
Is that you, worm? by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 1:46am PDT
Re: Is that you, worm? by Mysterio Prime 08/11/2019, 9:02am PDT
Who are you making fun of? You got my post completely backwards. by Vested Id 08/11/2019, 12:36pm PDT
Re: Who are you making fun of? You got my post completely backwards. by Ichabod 08/11/2019, 1:28pm PDT
The mobile version of the site getting garbage dayed lol NT by Only good post in this thread 08/11/2019, 1:30pm PDT
literally everyone thinks like us by must be a conspiracy 08/11/2019, 2:06pm PDT
You should list a bunch of people Superior to yourself by Again 08/11/2019, 2:34pm PDT
Re: You should list a bunch of people Superior to yourself by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 2:50pm PDT
Are you blind NT by Vested Id 08/11/2019, 1:57am PDT
Re: “barely qualified rapist frat boy” by Mischief Maker 08/11/2019, 4:16am PDT
I beg your pardon by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 4:52am PDT
I wish I could go to an interview shitfaced and belligerent by and get praised as a martyr 08/11/2019, 7:02am PDT
Whoops, not Roberts, just Kavanaugh. My mistake. NT by MM 08/11/2019, 7:07am PDT
Re: I wish I could go to an interview shitfaced and belligerent by Ulrachi 08/11/2019, 9:51am PDT
Re: I wish I could go to an interview shitfaced and belligerent by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 12:37pm PDT
Re: I wish I could go to an interview shitfaced and belligerent by Ichabod 08/11/2019, 1:24pm PDT
Shut up, Vested Id, you stupid fucking cunt. NT by Ulrachi 08/11/2019, 9:03am PDT
Nope by Vested Id 08/11/2019, 9:40am PDT
Then I apologize. by Ulrachi 08/11/2019, 9:48am PDT
Absurd NT by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 8:58pm PDT
Re: Absurd by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 9:52pm PDT
I'm simply saying if ANY Republican is elected, it's a tragedy. by Mischief Maker 08/11/2019, 4:34am PDT
I, for one, admire the forthrightness of your bigotry by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 5:28am PDT
pence’ll kill ALL OUR GAYS by Mysterio 08/10/2019, 9:24pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted by ur outrage 08/10/2019, 8:47pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 9:03pm PDT
Think carefully about the stuff you believe by Vested Id 08/10/2019, 9:10pm PDT
Re: Think carefully about the stuff you believe by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 9:53pm PDT
Are you a girl? NT by Vested Id 08/10/2019, 9:54pm PDT
Asks the guy that posts here like a bitch NT by Mysterio 08/10/2019, 10:28pm PDT
Re: Asks the guy that posts here like a bitch by Mysterio 08/11/2019, 1:12am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted by ur outrage 08/10/2019, 9:56pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 11:12pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 3:57am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by They Will Never Understand 08/11/2019, 5:16am PDT
See, this is what we’re all are up against by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 5:38am PDT
MM is asking if we want coleslaw or potato salad, I say give me both sides. NT by They Will Never Understand 08/11/2019, 5:50am PDT
*snort* Okay, fair dinkum by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 6:00am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by laudablepuss 08/11/2019, 11:11am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted by ur outrage 08/10/2019, 9:58pm PDT
Right! So true by laudablepuss 08/10/2019, 11:01pm PDT
Re: Right! So true by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 1:00am PDT
Re: Right! So true by Mysterio Prime 08/11/2019, 8:57am PDT
Re: Right! So true by laudablepuss 08/11/2019, 11:26am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by Mysterio Prime 08/10/2019, 10:27pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted by ur outrage 08/10/2019, 11:52pm PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by Mysterio Prime 08/11/2019, 8:46am PDT
Re: Why is it partsan by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 12:52pm PDT
Start to "I was only pretending to be a moron" NT by 12 hours 08/11/2019, 1:29pm PDT
My first post ITT was about presenting partisan bs by as incontrovertible fact 08/11/2019, 2:11pm PDT
This is like when Dennis Reynolds goes back to his old frat by Again 08/11/2019, 2:37pm PDT
B-b-b-ut Obama by Mysterio 08/11/2019, 11:15am PDT
Where are you going with this? by laudablepuss 08/11/2019, 11:16am PDT
There was an investigation on one of them by Ichabod 08/11/2019, 12:14pm PDT
Re: Where are you going with this? by exhausted by ur outrage 08/11/2019, 12:58pm PDT
Also, sorry about screwing up the tags, gur gur gur NT by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 2:25pm PDT
shh. shh shh shhhh by the grownups are talking 08/11/2019, 2:18am PDT
Re: shh. shh shh shhhh by exhausted but hopeful 08/11/2019, 9:19am PDT
All Caltrops says is "racism shootings socialism KKK" NT by I just want to game for godsakes! 08/10/2019, 11:09pm PDT
We've got a person threatening a mass shooting if I mention any indie games! NT by Mischief Moral Quandry 08/11/2019, 7:09am PDT
Complain about quality if you like, forum was already (appropriately) demoted NT by Vested Id 08/11/2019, 9:36am PDT
Posts last night meant to distract from Epstein NT by Wake up 08/11/2019, 11:48am PDT
We finally have a proper and free thinker grace us with their prescence NT by and you all act like unruly childre 08/11/2019, 1:39pm PDT
Moral Clarity. by Mischief Maker 08/14/2019, 6:43pm PDT
... NT by i can nvr tell when ur being sarcas 08/14/2019, 6:50pm PDT
Thanks for the moral absolution, mass killer. No not you, the other one. by Vested Id 08/14/2019, 7:07pm PDT
Antifa threw cement milkshakes, but your guy ran people over in a car NT by A tricky, unavoidable ding 08/15/2019, 9:23am PDT
Invest in small but unpredictable acts of violence, get big returns NT by Vested Id 08/15/2019, 9:27am PDT
Yep. by A tricky, unavoidable ding 08/15/2019, 10:57am PDT
I'm for a blanket assault rifle ban that disarms antifa and proud boys equally. NT by Limit it to food fights! -MM 08/15/2019, 12:03pm PDT
Great. Onto the next topic. by A tricky, unavoidable ding 08/15/2019, 12:32pm PDT
DONT by Jemli 08/15/2019, 12:33pm PDT
"Disarm Proud Boys" = remove arms NT by Vested Id 08/15/2019, 12:47pm PDT
That's one way to enforce their creepy no-fap rules! NT by Mischief's five favorite cereals. 08/15/2019, 1:25pm PDT
Pointing the last remaining gun at your head to force you to jerk off NT by Vested Id 08/15/2019, 1:27pm PDT
You're just happy to see me. NT by Mischief's five favorite cereals. 08/15/2019, 1:42pm PDT
I've been just fine since getting you to embrace political violence NT by Vested Id 08/15/2019, 2:08pm PDT
cement milkshakes NT by [citation needed] 08/15/2019, 12:41pm PDT
Posting Matt Bors cartoons unironically NT by to own the cons 08/14/2019, 9:16pm PDT
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