Forum Overview :: BioShock Infinite
 
You called it. by Mysterio 03/26/2024, 12:32pm PDT

BY RYAN MCCAFFREY
UPDATED: MAR 26, 2024 12:28 PM
POSTED: MAR 26, 2024 10:00 AM
By sheer coincidence, today marks exactly 11 years since BioShock Infinite was released. It was by all accounts a masterpiece – a worthy follow-up to 2007's landmark narrative-driven first-person shooter BioShock. But after two excellent DLC episodes were released, creative director Ken Levine resigned and parent company Take-Two closed Irrational Games. Levine started a new, smaller studio for Take-Two called Campfire Games, later renamed to Ghost Story Games. And then everything went quiet, with Levine rarely speaking publicly outside of a GDC talk about "narrative LEGOs" in 2014.


"By all accounts a masterpiece." Dear God.
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This is really terrible by fabio 03/13/2014, 2:24am PDT NEW
    How is the combat? Might pick it up again for more of that. NT by John Gulp 03/13/2014, 10:36am PDT NEW
        Re: How is the combat? Might pick it up again for more of that. by fabio 03/13/2014, 2:01pm PDT NEW
            Worse than that I'd say by Lurker 410942 03/13/2014, 8:36pm PDT NEW
                I always carried shotgun and carbine, sometimes swapping with hand cannon by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 2:39pm PDT NEW
    Looking forward to it! NT by Mischief Hacker 03/13/2014, 3:04pm PDT NEW
        Me too. NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/17/2014, 1:52am PDT NEW
    Wasn't this supposed to be a satire of American nationalism? by fabio 03/14/2014, 1:57am PDT NEW
    aaaand done by fabio 03/17/2014, 1:13am PDT NEW
        Time travel isn't that bad by skip 04/01/2014, 8:07pm PDT NEW
            Re: Time travel isn't that bad by Mysterio who has played Achron 04/02/2014, 11:19am PDT NEW
        That fucking ending. by WITTGENSTEIN 05/15/2015, 11:17pm PDT NEW
            It was written by bizarro Orson Scott Card NT by fabio 05/16/2015, 12:13am PDT NEW
                Does anybody want to defend this? by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 10:48am PDT NEW
                    What the hell! by Mischief Maker 05/16/2015, 12:31pm PDT NEW
                        "got lost in the mass of quantum bullshit" should be the game's tagline NT by fabio 05/16/2015, 1:01pm PDT NEW
                            The sad thing is Burial at Sea wold have made a better Bioshock than Bioshock by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 1:20pm PDT NEW
                                But it's a pretty shitty continuation of Infinite by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 5:25pm PDT NEW
                                    The original incarnation of Fitzroy was also dumb by skip 05/17/2015, 6:28am PDT NEW
                                        I didn't really like Fitzroy's character at all through any of it by WITTGENSTEIN 05/17/2015, 9:25am PDT NEW
                        I thought about that but why the No Niggers policy by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 1:08pm PDT NEW
                            Old fashioned "one drop rule" racism didn't just apply to injuns. NT by Mischief Maker 05/16/2015, 1:59pm PDT NEW
                                Everything you say makes sense. Too bad they never put it in the FUCKING GAME NT by WITTGENSTEIN 05/16/2015, 2:27pm PDT NEW
                                    Fortinbras moment! NT by stupidity fairy 05/17/2015, 12:23am PDT NEW
                                        Yeah why would it be necessary to explain the motivations of a villain in a NT by story? 05/17/2015, 12:32am PDT NEW
                                            What's 'show, don't tell?' You'd think to apply it to cinematic-heavy games NT by if you thought at all. 05/17/2015, 10:02am PDT NEW
                                                Except it doesn't show OR tell NT by You FUCKING RETARD 05/17/2015, 10:14am PDT NEW
                                                    Then where did MM draw those conclusions from, some other unavailable universe? NT by Caps don't equal brains, Fortinbras 05/17/2015, 12:54pm PDT NEW
                                                        His ass maybe? by Worm 05/17/2015, 3:05pm PDT NEW
                                                            You've met people who live by that idea unless you're a total shut-in. NT by A Message from Caltrops Cares 05/17/2015, 3:40pm PDT NEW
                                                                What like born agains or something? by Worm 05/17/2015, 4:12pm PDT NEW
                                                                    It's about how the audience is expected to think religious people live, not abou by what you can explain. 05/17/2015, 5:09pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Somebody wrote that it's basically steampunk Mormonism with alternative dimensio NT by shit tacked on. 05/17/2015, 6:12pm PDT NEW
                                                            Bingo! by MM 05/17/2015, 3:51pm PDT NEW
                                                                There always must be a Comstock. NT by Worm 05/17/2015, 4:14pm PDT NEW
                                                            All analysis comes out of someone's ass by skip 05/17/2015, 3:58pm PDT NEW
                                                Meta: Is it worth giving Fortinbras shit if you have talk up Infinite? NT by Worm 05/17/2015, 10:21am PDT NEW
                                                    Well what else is this mysterio gonna do now that Ken Levine wound down by Irrational? 05/17/2015, 10:34am PDT NEW
                                                        Oh that's an idea, a social app that matches crazy fanboys with content creators NT by Worm 05/17/2015, 10:48am PDT NEW
                                                    True. History will be nicer to Infinite. Guaranteed it will show up on almost NT by all "best games of the 10s" lists 05/17/2015, 11:56am PDT NEW
                                                        Which is funny by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/17/2015, 12:23pm PDT NEW
                                                            Infinite sucks, I just point out a lack of insight here and there by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/17/2015, 1:00pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Infinite sucks, I just point out a lack of insight here and there by WITTGENSTEIN 05/17/2015, 1:30pm PDT NEW
                                                                    How hard is it to understand? Baptism = racism duh NT by r/atheism redditor 05/17/2015, 1:42pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Yeah, we all need to read Uncle Tom's Cabin and watch Roots to think critically! NT by It's not you. It's never you. 05/17/2015, 2:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                    'all humans share MM's racial studies class he took.' What a Kodak moment. by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/17/2015, 2:28pm PDT NEW
                                                                        I have to side with Wittgenstein by Vested Id 05/17/2015, 3:00pm PDT NEW
                                                                            There's the answer to all attempts at quality writing, then. by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/17/2015, 3:11pm PDT NEW
                                                                                Look seriously... by MM 05/17/2015, 4:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                                    That's grand. How did the wiki writers, who are stupid, also get there? by Your analysis is not unique. 05/17/2015, 4:52pm PDT NEW
                                                                                        You know what? You convinced me. Bioshock's story is great. by MM 05/17/2015, 6:27pm PDT NEW
                                                                                            109 pages with cover! by All-caps trigger warning 05/17/2015, 6:57pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Right. The attempted storytelling can't be separated from the rest of the game. by cap-sensitive tumblerite 05/17/2015, 10:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                                Complexity isn't inherently good by Vested Id 05/17/2015, 7:01pm PDT NEW
                                                                                    They connected to their chosen audience just fine but that's beside the point. by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/17/2015, 10:42pm PDT NEW
                                                                                        If story ambition alone is praiseworthy, Final Fantasy XIII is Citizen Kane. NT by MM 05/18/2015, 5:54am PDT NEW
                                                                                            We should check by asking Wittgenstein if he got confused by any part of the NT by dumb story. 05/18/2015, 6:40am PDT NEW
                                                                                            Narrative is as worthy of improvement as action. Claims to the contrary aren't by good for games. 05/18/2015, 10:34am PDT NEW
                                                                                                The advantage of being a Mysterio is you can walk away from a losing argument. by MM 05/18/2015, 4:29pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    What do you want from me, photo ID and an address? Typical shyster. by Mysterio 05/18/2015, 5:11pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Turns out Mysterio was pulling an ~elaborate troll~ on us all along! by WITTGENSTEIN 05/18/2015, 5:39pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            even screechy mouthbreathers know increasing likelihood of replies ain't trollan by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/18/2015, 8:18pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Why talk about another game? This has provided the most forum activity in months by skip 05/18/2015, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Maybe ludonarrative sacrifice or drift, like SW:BFII's tacked on space battles. NT by Clint Hocking 05/18/2015, 8:24pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                Feels like skip is describing several different things. But yes. by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/18/2015, 8:49pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                    Re: Feels like skip is describing several different things. But yes. by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/19/2015, 10:38am PDT NEW
                                                                                                                        Lack of ambition was not one of Infinite's faults by WITTGENSTEIN 05/19/2015, 2:23pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                            One thing I'll never, ever get by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/19/2015, 3:24pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                        I wouldn't play Cage games if I thought vision didn't matter by skip 05/19/2015, 6:15pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: What do you want from me, photo ID and an address? Typical shyster. by Daniel Berkhart 05/19/2015, 3:59pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    This has the be #cousinits NT by fabio 05/18/2015, 7:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Virtual misogyny is fine, it can spark introspection that stops real misogyny. by sadsack self-proclaimed mysterio el 05/18/2015, 8:16pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        #cousinits writes with brevity by Daniel Berkhart 05/19/2015, 4:19pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    I'd like to officially disagree with your anti-mysterio sentiments, who cares? by Worm 05/19/2015, 11:51am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Go get some therapy already Worm NT by MYSTERIOOOOO 05/19/2015, 12:44pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Standard Worm playbook: Feign disinterest, call all parties fags, participate NT by intensely 05/19/2015, 5:21pm PDT NEW
                                                                                        Re: They connected to their chosen audience just fine but that's beside the poi by Vested Id 05/18/2015, 2:04pm PDT NEW
                                                                                            all those words and you still call me a cocksucker by Mysterio 05/18/2015, 2:28pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: all those words and you still call me a cocksucker by Vested Id 05/18/2015, 3:37pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    The response to lionization remains NT by No, not really 05/18/2015, 3:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        NT NT by thank god 05/18/2015, 4:10pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    They deserve to be seen as middling when it comes to narrative development inste NT by of being demonized, yes. Special, n 05/18/2015, 4:59pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: Which is funny by all "best games of the 10s" lists 05/17/2015, 1:17pm PDT NEW
                                                                It sold so well that the studio closed? NT by fabio 05/17/2015, 3:41pm PDT NEW
                                                                    6 million copies in a year isn't GTA V. But it's not exactly Braid or indie game NT by level sales either. 05/17/2015, 5:52pm PDT NEW
                                                                Great post - thanks! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/17/2015, 6:25pm PDT NEW
                                                            Infinite is better cause by Vested Id 05/17/2015, 2:09pm PDT NEW
                                                                He who pleases the fanfiction writers will gain immortality. NT by skip 05/17/2015, 3:41pm PDT NEW
                                                            I don't even get why it's being embraced by SJWs and journos by fabio 05/17/2015, 3:57pm PDT NEW
                                                                Nah. You and SJW's agree here. Video game opinions make for strange bedfellows by skip 05/17/2015, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                                                                I want Fabio to do videos about gamer feminism done right. I'd watch them. by serial malcontent 05/17/2015, 4:20pm PDT NEW
                                                            I'd say THIS is the ultimate takedown of Bioshock Infinite by MM 05/17/2015, 4:46pm PDT NEW
                                                        You called it. by Mysterio 03/26/2024, 12:32pm PDT NEW
                                        Don't ruin the conversation. NT by Mysterio Lollerson 05/17/2015, 9:47am PDT NEW
                                            fag NT by fagNT 05/17/2015, 12:46pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Does anybody want to defend this? by fabio 05/17/2015, 11:55am PDT NEW
    Man with excellent accent reviews every dumb flaw in Bioshock Infinite by Last 04/02/2014, 7:57am PDT NEW
 
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