Senor Barborito wrote:

Here.

Damned good read. Essentially we do have an ideological imperative to invade, but right now we've fucked up our foreign policy so very badly that it needs to become our first priority for the time being.

I found it very hard to argue with.

--SB

Dan Savage, D-Fagtopia wrote:

George W. Bush wasn't able to convince NATO--NATO!--or the United Nations of the necessity of this necessary war.

Dan Savage, D-Fagtopia wrote:

The Islamo-fascists will succeed where the Bush administration has failed. Colin Powell couldn't bring France, Germany, and Russia to their senses, but the next wave of deadly terrorist attacks no doubt will. So we'll just have to wait until after New York or Paris or Seattle or Strasbourg is wiped off the map to do what must be done.

Dan Savage, D-Fagtopia wrote:

I think a world without NATO and the UN will be more dangerous in the long run than a world without Saddam Hussein will be in the short run.

Andrew Sullivan, R-Fagtopia (citing a $$$ Stratfor article) wrote:

Stratfor's George Friedman performs the revealing task of actually counting where European countries stand on war against Saddam. There are three categories: countries that explicitly support the U.S position; countries that support it but wanted a second resolution; and countries that oppose war against Saddam. In the first camp, we have the United Kingdom, Spain, Denmark, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia, Croatia, Portugal, Bosnia and Montenegro. In the second camp - supportive - we have, "the Netherlands, Estonia, the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Slovakia - a bloc of five. But of these, The Netherlands sent Patriot missiles to Turkey before NATO approved the shipment, while the Czechs and Slovaks have sent chemical detection teams to Kuwait." ... Then we have the neutrals: Ireland, Austria, Finland, Serbia, Switzerland and Norway. And the opponents: France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Sweden and Greece. Friedman therefore notes something that should be borne in mind when you hear NPR, the BBC and others tell you that "Europe" opposes the war. By an overwhelming majority of 21 countries to five, Europe backs war, with five countries neutral. And of those 21, you have the second and fourth largest economies, Britain and Italy, the two biggest emerging powers, Spain and Poland, and the entire former Eastern bloc. It would be a huge majority in the future EU.