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Dynasty Warriors 4 rawks! It won't convert non-believers. Voicework sucks. Etc. by curst 03/27/2003, 9:25am PST
Good things about it:

- The improved AI is great. Allied and enemy scrubs alike will now put up a sort of decent fight. This proves HUGELY annoying when you're trying to take out an enemy general and didn't do a good job of removing his/her backup first. The game is much more challenging even on Easy difficulty.

- The new characters are really cool. Cao Ren is a goddamn tank, tough as a motherfucker. Zhou Tai has this strange barbarian samurai gimmick going for him - he sounds almost as neanderthalish as Wei Yan, he wields what is essentially a katana (an "Eastern Sword", as the game puts it), and he slaughters suckers nicely. Yue Ying is easily the most powerful hottie in the game, and damn if she isn't comparable to Lu Bu, honestly. She sure carved my ass up wit da quicknez.

- The new level design is great. 50 goddamn levels, most of them of the 60-minute variety (meaning they larger than DW3's brief battles, smaller than DW3's huge ones). Essentially this already large game just became FUCKING HUGE.

- Most of the siege weapons are pretty bland (the ramps) or nothing new at all (the catapults), but in the intro movie there are these strange devices that look like the Wooden Ox of DW3, almost, except they're on wheels and they spew fire. People on GameFAQs said they're called Tiger Tanks. I can't wait to use them.

- The combo system is reworked somewhat. Now just pressing Triangle does something unique for almost everyone. i.e. Huang Zhong will fire five arrows in rapid succession, Lu Bu will strangle someone while stabbing them before throwing them damn near into orbit, Zhen Ji will play her flute and this bubble will appear near her, and it explodes if you get too close to it, and to add to the explosions, Huang Gai fucking throws bombs around, which are nicely destructive. Also, I don't think it's possible to do infinite combos anymore - in DW3, you'd find yourself always doing Charge 5-Charge 5-Charge 5 attacks since you could keep it up forever. In DW4, at least with Sun Shang Xiang, you can't get more than two of those in a row before you knock the enemy just out of range. Now there's a reason to use all of a character's attacks instead of just one or two. At least that's how it seems so far.

- The graphics are improved. The draw-in problem (where soldiers would disappear/reappear haphazardly when there's too much action going on) has been reduced enormously. The downside to this is that while slowdown doesn't happen very much, when it does it hits you HARD. I'm almost certain the framerate dipped below 10FPS at one point. Still, I'd rather have slowdown than draw-in, since disappearing enemies meant they could 'escape' your attacks in mid-combo.

- The new movies are pretty damn cool. There's some harsh stuff, like Lu Xun setting a crowd of guys on fire with flaming arrows, and while the voicework mostly sucks, the guys who did the frantic screaming for this particular movie deserve a raise.

- Horses are now a viable alternative to walking. I lasted a lot longer on horseback than I ever did in DW3, and I wasn't even using a good horseback character to my knowledge, nor was I using one of the unique horses. This meant I wasted a lot less time running around in empty plains trying to get to the next battle.


Bad things about it:

- The voicework is just about unlistenable. No Japanese voices. Maybe it's because I don't speak Japanese, but I really liked the Japanese work in DW3 and wish Koei had kept it instead of making an English-only version. Some of the guys are okay, but some are awful. Sun Ce sounds like a combination of surfer/stoner/lee+hax0r, not only in his dialogue but just his goddamn awful voice.

- The music, at times, is extremely cool, but overall it lacks the energy of DW3. Boo. Okay, even the songs I don't like aren't really *BAD*, but they just don't work for this kind of game.

- Some of the more powerful DW3 warriors were weakened. In the case of Zhen Ji and Guan Yu, ARRRRRRRGH THE NERFING TOTALLY COCKFUCKYSUCKING SUCKS! At least the pathetic chumps like Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong were improved, but still, there's no explaining why Guan Yu isn't a top-tier fighter in a Romance Of The Three Kingdoms game.

- In the special encounter at Hu Lao Gate, Lu Bu is a motherfucking MONSTER. It's patently unfair. I think he killed me in a duel by just tapping me on the shoulder, or maybe breathing heavily, or something. But I guess it's good to see that Koei didn't completely forget how the RoTK book reads and didn't decide to nerf his ass the way they did Guan Yu.


Overall, I don't think DW4 will turn non-fans into fans, aside maybe from the improved AI, but those who already liked the series should dig the changes a lot. The game is fundamentally unchanged, really.
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Dynasty Warriors 4 rawks! It won't convert non-believers. Voicework sucks. Etc. by curst 03/27/2003, 9:25am PST
    What the hell is with this English-only shit? by Damocles 03/30/2003, 5:58pm PST
        Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by curst 03/31/2003, 8:47am PST
            Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by Damocles 04/01/2003, 7:50pm PST
                Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by FABIO 04/01/2003, 9:51pm PST
                    Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by foogla 04/02/2003, 3:00am PST
                        Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by curst 04/02/2003, 9:11am PST
                            Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by FABIO 04/02/2003, 1:34pm PST
                            Re: What the hell is with this English-only shit? by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/02/2003, 1:56pm PST
                                correction by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/02/2003, 2:01pm PST
                            The Pandora Directive -nt- by Entropy Stew 04/02/2003, 6:33pm PST
                                Gabriel Knight 2? by Damocles 04/04/2003, 3:03am PST
                                    Only played the first, but heard the second was good like you said NT by Entropy Stew 04/04/2003, 3:18am PST
                                        It's the main reason I don't piss and moan when I see "FMV" by Damocles 04/04/2003, 1:03pm PST
                                            Re: It's the main reason I don't piss and moan when I see "FMV" by FABIO 04/04/2003, 2:54pm PST
                                                Holy crap, Harvester by Damocles 04/04/2003, 8:17pm PST
                                                    Re: Holy crap, Harvester by FABIO 04/04/2003, 8:41pm PST
                                                        Mechwarrior 2 actually NT by FABIO 04/04/2003, 8:41pm PST
                                                            So did you actually like Mechwarrior 2? -NT- by Damocles 04/04/2003, 8:50pm PST
                                                                Re: So did you actually like Mechwarrior 2? by FABIO 04/04/2003, 10:09pm PST
                                                                    As long as the thread necromancy is going on... by Damocles 07/06/2003, 11:35pm PDT
                    One, maybe. by Damocles 04/02/2003, 2:34pm PST
                        multiple DVDs cost more money by sabo10 04/02/2003, 5:30pm PST
                            Re: multiple DVDs cost more money by Damocles 04/04/2003, 3:02am PST
    Something I forgot to say: non-believers are infidel scum. DW akbar! by Damocles 04/04/2003, 8:53pm PST
        Re: Something I forgot to say: non-believers are infidel scum. DW akbar! by curst 04/05/2003, 3:19pm PST
            why I could never get THAT into the three kingdoms period by FABIO 04/05/2003, 4:05pm PST
                Re: why I could never get THAT into the three kingdoms period by curst 04/05/2003, 6:21pm PST
            Does this mean Zhang He is a furry? by Damocles 04/06/2003, 12:08am PST
    Re: Dynasty Warriors 4 rawks! It won't convert non-believers. Voicework sucks. Etc. by @!)@M 07/03/2003, 8:44pm PDT
        Re: Dynasty Warriors 4 rawks! It won't convert non-believers. Voicework sucks. Etc. by mark 07/03/2003, 11:35pm PDT
            You're in luck! Maybe! by Mood: Perplexed 07/04/2003, 2:38am PDT
            Meh, here's my new long short review of it by curst 07/04/2003, 3:12am PDT
                expansion pack question by K. Thor Jensen 07/05/2003, 2:22pm PDT
                    stand alone NT by FABIO 07/05/2003, 9:48pm PDT
                        But far better with both. NT by No Body 07/06/2003, 1:00am PDT
                            Why on earth would you buy both???? NT by FABIO 07/06/2003, 2:17am PDT
                                Old game Musou with new game difficulty/sidekicks NT by Principal Scudworth 07/06/2003, 3:30am PDT
                                    Re: Old game Musou with new game difficulty/sidekicks by No Body 07/06/2003, 10:59pm PDT
                    Re: expansion pack question by curst 07/08/2003, 10:40am PDT
            FABIO-esque? NT by FABIO 07/04/2003, 10:18am PDT
        I summon all the dark spirits of Thread Necromancy! NT by Damocles 07/04/2003, 11:18am PDT
 
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