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Bees are dying at unsustainable levels and the situation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture.
"For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said. "That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows, or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lot of alarm."
Caltrops' own Mark and I discussed bees before it was cool to do so.
In happier bee-times:
Ray: www.infidels.org/library/modern/meta/getalife/coretierra.html
mrk: this is the best article on genetic algorithms that I have read in years
Ray: It took the spectre of intelligent design to get someone to write a good article
Ray: but still, the thing evolved tiny asexual drones swarmed around a shared reproducive apparatus, like ants or bees
mrk: now I want to program such a system
mrk: You clearly never opened up the Hl SDK with the intention to create a mod, else you would have known how MUCH work writing a mod really is. Yes, valve crippled the game, the a-team had every right to whine about that, because they spend every free hour MAKING THIS MOD FOR YOUR SORRY ASS TO ENJOY! The changes valve made demanded a rewrite of like 50% of the code. The least you could have done was support them. You have just no idea what you're talking about. Ray: that could be your system's first output
mrk: a first step
mrk: but no indication of intelligent life
Ray: www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050924/fob5.asp
mrk: "The native Asian bees, ancient adversaries of the wasps, mobilized half again as many defenders into a heat ball as the European bees did, the researchers report. Furthermore, Asian bees not mobbing the wasp were more likely to take shelter during an attack than bystander European bees were."
Ray: overwhelming numerical strength is an ancient Asian tradition
mrk: I like the taking cover part especially
mrk: European bees, just watching, wondering what's going on
Tue Apr 24 12:00:28 2007
Since about one-third of the U.S. diet depends on pollination and most of that is performed by honeybees, this [mass honeybee disappearance] constitutes a serious problem, according to Jeff Pettis of the U.S. Agricultural Research Service.
Honeybees are used to pollinate some of the tastiest parts of the American diet, Pettis said, including cherries, blueberries, apples, almonds, asparagus and macadamia nuts. "It's not the staples," he said. "If you can imagine eating a bowl of oatmeal every day with no fruit on it, that's what it would be like" without honeybee pollination.
mrk: I used to work on a bee farm
mrk: turns out bees are pretty mad about humans stealing their honey
mrk: really, really, mad
Ray: one theory I read said the problem was overdiversity, because they import bees from every which continent and theorized that one of them maybe made the others go crazy
mrk: the alpacan madness bee. Such sweet honey, such a dangerous disposition
Ray: it sounds like the kind of thing the Bush administration would do on purpose
Ray: "we estimate this will boost wheat prices by 20 cents per bushel"
mrk: "What about the honey???"
mrk: "We have an oil based alternative."
Ray: at least fruit can finally be a luxury item
mrk: "As both oranges and apples cost 40 dollars, I'm not really in a position to compare them, no."
Ray: American medicine: now price-competitive with an apple a day
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Bee Death by Ray of Light 05/08/2008, 11:05pm PDT 
I liked this when it was an episode of CSI from 2 years ago THAT'S HOW OLD THIS NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/08/2008, 11:19pm PDT 
Were Ray and Mark bee-ten to the punch on this story? NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 05/09/2008, 1:10am PDT 
Even BEE Maher talked about this (nonstop) LAST year. NT by Road Warrior extra 05/09/2008, 1:42am PDT 
On H-Bee-O? NT by Awful. But I can't resist. 05/09/2008, 1:52am PDT 
That log is from last year. But the story is from today or whatever. by Ray of Light 05/09/2008, 2:38am PDT 
Re: That log is from last year. But the story is from today or whatever. by Information services 05/09/2008, 3:07am PDT 
Did he really? :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/09/2008, 3:02am PDT 
It's because we put the bees and their honeycombs on trucks and move them around NT by pollinating crops 05/09/2008, 6:53pm PDT 
And that started in 2007, just around when the first bees disappeared. Good work NT by Ray of Light 05/09/2008, 11:13pm PDT 
Monsanto NT by Entropy Stew 05/10/2008, 1:03am PDT 
I edited that part out of the log (surveillance) NT by Ray of Light 05/10/2008, 4:41pm PDT 
My brother used to work at the National Honey Board by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/10/2008, 1:33am PDT 
Itsa lika they don't even-a listen! by Bee Mario 05/10/2008, 10:35pm PDT 
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