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Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:33am PST
Bananadine wrote:

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

I'm not going to read Atlas Shrugged, because there are a thousand other books I'd like to read first, and the entire objectivist argument seems to be completely retarded, unrealistic, devoid of compassion and almost exclusively held by petulant neckbeards.


Ayn Rand herself was not exactly a petulant neckbeard, and within the framework of the book, the argument generally makes sense and leads to something higher and better than ordinary compassion. That the framework itself is severely unrealistic tends to cripple the book as an illustration of a real philosophy, but leaves its status as a huge, epic fantasy story unsullied (except at one point when the author finally decides the way has been paved for the reader to actively enjoy a pure dose of philosophy, and drops in a lecture that stops all drama for fifty pages--but that's only like a twentieth of the book). I like epic fantasy stories myself, and I don't care much about philosophy, so I just pretended all the heroic industrialists were a strange, new kind of elf, while the life-hating collectivists were only especially talky orcs, and that, solidly buttressed by my fascination with craziness, made it easy for me to enjoy the book--which was a big surprise after I'd heard it denounced so many times as a tedious presentation of a bad philosophy.

It's still somewhat retarded though, and it would be perfectly reasonable for you to skip it.


Other people who aren't exactly petulant neckbeards who are big Randists reside here. Victor Niederhoffer and his friends and fans are fairly annoying and seem to have adopted their interest in Rand to justify naked capitalist impulses. Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't know. I just know I downloaded a few Rand e-books to try and figure out what exactly it was all about and gave up after about three pages. I've even tried reading through the entire Wikipedia page about it and the only thing I've really figured out is that Randian Objectivism is different from philosophical objectivism; the rest just washes over me like a nice cool breeze and then I go back to doing something else.
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Personal Ads for Objectivists by Fortinbras 11/29/2008, 2:09pm PST NEW
    Do they other kinds of classified ads for objectivists? by Jerry Whorebach 11/29/2008, 6:11pm PST NEW
        Ray is selling an outboard motor? NT by Coronation 12/02/2008, 12:45pm PST NEW
    Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 12:00pm PST NEW
        Try Murray Rothbard's essay on the Ayn Rand cult for real loopiness by Fortinbras 12/02/2008, 12:45pm PST NEW
        Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 1:04pm PST NEW
            Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 2:09pm PST NEW
                Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:52pm PST NEW
            Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 6:32pm PST NEW
                What? by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 7:00pm PST NEW
                    It could be my definition of "neckbeard" is imperfect by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 8:21pm PST NEW
                        Yeah, I was gonna say that, the beard and - yeah NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:44pm PST NEW
                        Re: It could be my definition of "neckbeard" is imperfect by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 9:02pm PST NEW
                Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:55pm PST NEW
                    The Fountainhead is better written, smaller, and puts across the same point NT by Fortinbras 12/02/2008, 9:03pm PST NEW
                        Also there is a Rush song based on it I think. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/02/2008, 9:38pm PST NEW
                            The Trees? NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 10:31pm PST NEW
                                No. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/02/2008, 11:10pm PST NEW
                                    Tom Sawyer? NT by Jerry Whorebach 12/03/2008, 5:09am PST NEW
                                    Well, I give up, *I* can't figure out what The Trees is about /flips keyboard NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/03/2008, 11:42am PST NEW
                    Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Mischief Maker 12/02/2008, 10:15pm PST NEW
                    Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 11:20pm PST NEW
                        dwarf by dwarf 12/03/2008, 12:30am PST NEW
                        Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Mischief Maker 12/03/2008, 7:39am PST NEW
                            Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/03/2008, 10:24am PST NEW
                            Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:36am PST NEW
                        semi-colorful characters that behave consistently with their own impossible pers NT by New Caltrops Titlebar 12/03/2008, 9:17am PST NEW
                    Oh okay let me help with that. by Zsenitan 12/03/2008, 9:48am PST NEW
                        Re: Oh okay let me help with that. by Bananadine 12/03/2008, 10:18am PST NEW
                Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:33am PST NEW
 
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