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by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:33am PST |
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Bananadine wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
I'm not going to read Atlas Shrugged, because there are a thousand other books I'd like to read first, and the entire objectivist argument seems to be completely retarded, unrealistic, devoid of compassion and almost exclusively held by petulant neckbeards.
Ayn Rand herself was not exactly a petulant neckbeard, and within the framework of the book, the argument generally makes sense and leads to something higher and better than ordinary compassion. That the framework itself is severely unrealistic tends to cripple the book as an illustration of a real philosophy, but leaves its status as a huge, epic fantasy story unsullied (except at one point when the author finally decides the way has been paved for the reader to actively enjoy a pure dose of philosophy, and drops in a lecture that stops all drama for fifty pages--but that's only like a twentieth of the book). I like epic fantasy stories myself, and I don't care much about philosophy, so I just pretended all the heroic industrialists were a strange, new kind of elf, while the life-hating collectivists were only especially talky orcs, and that, solidly buttressed by my fascination with craziness, made it easy for me to enjoy the book--which was a big surprise after I'd heard it denounced so many times as a tedious presentation of a bad philosophy.
It's still somewhat retarded though, and it would be perfectly reasonable for you to skip it.
Other people who aren't exactly petulant neckbeards who are big Randists reside here. Victor Niederhoffer and his friends and fans are fairly annoying and seem to have adopted their interest in Rand to justify naked capitalist impulses. Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't know. I just know I downloaded a few Rand e-books to try and figure out what exactly it was all about and gave up after about three pages. I've even tried reading through the entire Wikipedia page about it and the only thing I've really figured out is that Randian Objectivism is different from philosophical objectivism; the rest just washes over me like a nice cool breeze and then I go back to doing something else. |
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Personal Ads for Objectivists by Fortinbras 11/29/2008, 2:09pm PST
Do they other kinds of classified ads for objectivists? by Jerry Whorebach 11/29/2008, 6:11pm PST
Ray is selling an outboard motor? NT by Coronation 12/02/2008, 12:45pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 12:00pm PST
Try Murray Rothbard's essay on the Ayn Rand cult for real loopiness by Fortinbras 12/02/2008, 12:45pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 1:04pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 2:09pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:52pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 6:32pm PST
What? by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 7:00pm PST
It could be my definition of "neckbeard" is imperfect by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 8:21pm PST
Yeah, I was gonna say that, the beard and - yeah NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:44pm PST
Re: It could be my definition of "neckbeard" is imperfect by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/02/2008, 9:02pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 8:55pm PST
The Fountainhead is better written, smaller, and puts across the same point NT by Fortinbras 12/02/2008, 9:03pm PST
Also there is a Rush song based on it I think. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/02/2008, 9:38pm PST
The Trees? NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/02/2008, 10:31pm PST
No. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/02/2008, 11:10pm PST
Tom Sawyer? NT by Jerry Whorebach 12/03/2008, 5:09am PST
Well, I give up, *I* can't figure out what The Trees is about /flips keyboard NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/03/2008, 11:42am PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Mischief Maker 12/02/2008, 10:15pm PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/02/2008, 11:20pm PST
dwarf by dwarf 12/03/2008, 12:30am PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Mischief Maker 12/03/2008, 7:39am PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Bananadine 12/03/2008, 10:24am PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:36am PST
semi-colorful characters that behave consistently with their own impossible pers NT by New Caltrops Titlebar 12/03/2008, 9:17am PST
Oh okay let me help with that. by Zsenitan 12/03/2008, 9:48am PST
Re: Oh okay let me help with that. by Bananadine 12/03/2008, 10:18am PST
Re: Personal Ads for Objectivists by Choson 12/03/2008, 11:33am PST
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