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Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/20/2012, 10:42am PST
fabio wrote:

That's what always drove me crazy about the Deus Ex games. They have one or two areas in the entire game with an overwhelming number of enemies then mark them off as "You're not seriously expected to fight this." The Paul ambush and MJ12 base in the original game. The crash site in HR.

Bitch, those moments should be standard in the last third of the game. Let me tear into that shit and give me full recharging batteries to do it with. Nothing is worse than when an action game turns into a long term resource management sim. Instead of making me wonder if the game is going to give me enough resources to make my way piecemeal through cannon fodder gradually wearing me down, set up huge difficult obstacles that are a challenge to my naturally regenerating resources.


Agreed. I guess the part that got to me involving the crash was that the game was very kind about leaving loads of ammo for me to kill bosses with in the room in which they trapped me with bosses... but they didn't give me a sniper rifle right before the crash site.

(OK, it's Deus Ex: they probably did. I sure couldn't find it.)

I *wanted* to save Malik. I wanted to shoot as many of those assholes in the chin as possible. Now, I am all for my bad decisions later meaning that lives are lost. HR has it almost all the way there. But man was it cheesy to know that a decision I made to drop the sniper an hour before hand was gonna have such consequences.

(And I am only complaining so much about HR because it was the only 2011 game I've played all the way through.)

I guess the other thing that gets me is that they give you all these upgrades, but none let you keep a second or third battery cell charged. That seems like a missed opportunity. And yeah, I would have loved to have been able to tear into the zombies at the end because I was an overpowered cyberpunk cyberlord, instead of having to run backwards with the shotgun, Doom-style.


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Has there ever been a game where a stamina meter really worked by Rafiki 02/19/2012, 9:50am PST NEW
    It's sole purpose in Deus Ex: HR by fabio 02/19/2012, 10:38am PST NEW
    What's best is when your flashlight draws energy from the same pool O_O by Jerry Whorebach 02/19/2012, 8:32pm PST NEW
        I'm still pretty sure the worst is also dxhr by jeep 02/19/2012, 8:40pm PST NEW
            I'm still confused by the battery thing by fabio 02/19/2012, 10:01pm PST NEW
                Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/20/2012, 10:42am PST NEW
                    Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by fabio 02/20/2012, 11:59am PST NEW
                        Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by Arbit 02/20/2012, 9:34pm PST NEW
                            Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by fabio 02/20/2012, 11:01pm PST NEW
                                Re: I'm still confused by the battery thing (spoilers) by jeep 02/21/2012, 6:59am PST NEW
                                    You can use one unconscious guy to bait others and tran dart them one by one. by Worm 02/21/2012, 10:58am PST NEW
            No, Skyrim (or any Elder Scrolls game) by Arbit 02/20/2012, 9:01pm PST NEW
        Probably! On a SSD transitions tend to cut off mid-sound/animation/whatever. NT by Mischief Maker 02/19/2012, 8:47pm PST NEW
            Keep in mind, even REGULAR hard drives aren't standard equipment on consoles yet by Jerry Whorebach 02/19/2012, 9:34pm PST NEW
                They were on the original Xbox :( NT by Mischief Maker 02/20/2012, 1:14am PST NEW
                    One of the reasons it was only in production for four years. HDDs are expensive! by And they don't get much cheaper. 02/20/2012, 1:38am PST NEW
        I'm playing Bulletstorm right now, and that game uses ACTUAL SPEEDBUMPS. by Jerry Whorebach 02/20/2012, 9:54pm PST NEW
            HOLY SHIT-PISS by Rafiki 02/21/2012, 8:02am PST NEW
                I'm halfway through the campaign on 'Very Hard', and I still feel like I'm in a by mandatory tutorial. 02/21/2012, 3:50pm PST NEW
                    Finished the campaign. Maybe the other modes are better? by Jerry Whorebach 02/27/2012, 8:47am PST NEW
                        What do you know, score attack mode is actually a little bit better. by Jerry Whorebach 03/02/2012, 5:56pm PST NEW
    Demon's Souls/Dark Souls? NT by Entropy Stew 02/19/2012, 9:54pm PST NEW
        This is correct. by Lizard_King 02/24/2012, 10:10am PST NEW
    fear 2 has a sprint meter by sdroa jists 02/24/2012, 2:41am PST NEW
    Jagged Alliance: Back in Action kicks you in the balls with stamina bullshit too by Eurotrash 02/24/2012, 9:33am PST NEW
    Do racing games count? by Last 02/24/2012, 9:56am PST NEW
    stamina meter goes on the pile with save points, cutscenes and...combat? by jeep 02/24/2012, 11:58am PST NEW
        Your ideas on games are pretty abhorent to me. by Arbit 02/24/2012, 1:28pm PST NEW
            He's the opposite of right NT by about everything 02/24/2012, 5:55pm PST NEW
                I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what tards think, but just this once by jeep 02/25/2012, 3:20pm PST NEW
                    it wasn't an insult by about everything 02/25/2012, 9:27pm PST NEW
                        oh well then thanks that's what I was going for from the start by jeep 02/26/2012, 8:58am PST NEW
            Why is he wrong? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:45pm PST NEW
                Are games more like reading books (boo) or playing hockey (yay)? by Jerry Whorebach 02/25/2012, 2:50am PST NEW
                    Here's a better(?) example. by Jerry Whorebach 02/25/2012, 6:10am PST NEW
                        tl;dr - you don't fix boring games by making them less like games, you do it by NT by making them more like games. 02/25/2012, 6:23am PST NEW
                        Jerry Whorebach: Ludologist by Let's Make Everything Into Games 02/26/2012, 5:39pm PST NEW
                            A nerd who likes games is about the last thing you'd expect to find on-- by wait, where am I again? 02/26/2012, 6:19pm PST NEW
                Re: Why is he wrong? by Rafiki 02/25/2012, 9:10am PST NEW
                    Don't think of it as a skip gameplay button then. by Mysterio 02/25/2012, 12:33pm PST NEW
                        I think we might be talking about different things now by Rafiki 02/25/2012, 1:49pm PST NEW
                            Re: I think we might be talking about different things now by jeep 02/26/2012, 9:14am PST NEW
                                Re: I think we might be talking about different things now by Rafiki 02/27/2012, 1:51pm PST NEW
                                    I see what you're worried about but I don't think it's that big a risk by jeep 02/27/2012, 7:35pm PST NEW
                                Out of hundreds, I've only played 3 (maybe 4) games whose story was "worth it." NT by Mischief Anachronism 02/27/2012, 1:58pm PST NEW
                                    True. Mostly I don't even remember plots, just certain scenes. by Last 02/27/2012, 2:29pm PST NEW
                                    same by jeep 02/27/2012, 6:46pm PST NEW
                        "Think of it as adding a sandbox mode, then removing all the non-sandbox modes." by GAME GENIE 02/25/2012, 1:55pm PST NEW
        Re: stamina meter goes on the pile with save points, cutscenes and...combat? by Hans Clastorp 02/24/2012, 3:47pm PST NEW
            I knew when I put "combat" in people would get twitchy by jeep 02/25/2012, 5:08pm PST NEW
                Re: I knew when I put "combat" in people would get twitchy by Mischief Anachronism 02/25/2012, 6:55pm PST NEW
                    How can you not like any Mario games? NT by Entropy Stew 02/25/2012, 11:46pm PST NEW
                        Not challenging, setting is as bland and corporate as McDonaldland. NT by Mischief Anachronism 02/26/2012, 3:05am PST NEW
                            The only excuse for not loving the NES version of original Super Mario Bros... by Jerry Whorebach 02/26/2012, 6:59am PST NEW
                                You're partly right by Mischief Maker 02/29/2012, 9:08pm PST NEW
                If you were running for Difficulty Czar, you'd have my vote. by Jerry Whorebach 02/26/2012, 6:56am PST NEW
                    re: ironman by jeep 02/26/2012, 8:57am PST NEW
                        I wasn't being sarcastic. I wish every game had such a robust selection of by difficulty settings. 02/26/2012, 9:49am PST NEW
                            you're still fucking with me right by jeep 02/26/2012, 10:20am PST NEW
                                Oh, I see where the miscommunication came in. by Jerry Whorebach 02/26/2012, 11:31am PST NEW
                                    Re: Oh, I see where the miscommunication came in. by jeep 02/26/2012, 3:32pm PST NEW
                Re: I knew when I put "combat" in people would get twitchy by Hans Clastorp 02/27/2012, 3:28pm PST NEW
                    I kind of liked the bit of The Void I played by jeep 02/27/2012, 8:14pm PST NEW
                        How much do you think writers cost? by Jerry Whorebach 02/27/2012, 9:49pm PST NEW
                            The problem with hiring decent writers isn't cost by fabio 02/28/2012, 7:44pm PST NEW
                                american mcgee's the third policeman NT by jeep 02/28/2012, 7:52pm PST NEW
                                Re: The problem with hiring decent writers isn't cost by Arbit 02/28/2012, 8:10pm PST NEW
                                Re: The problem with hiring decent writers isn't cost by Arbit 02/28/2012, 8:11pm PST NEW
                                    LET'S BLAME THIS SHIT ON APPLE TOO NT by Arbit 02/28/2012, 8:12pm PST NEW
                            Re: How much do you think writers cost? by jeep 02/28/2012, 7:49pm PST NEW
                                Re: How much do you think writers cost? by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/29/2012, 10:18am PST NEW
                                    Wasteland 2? by laudablepuss 02/29/2012, 11:43am PST NEW
                                        Re: Wasteland 2? by jeep 02/29/2012, 1:13pm PST NEW
                                It really is just ego by fabio 02/29/2012, 11:06am PST NEW
 
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