Caltrops - Gamerasutra





	[quote name="laudablepuss"]<font color="blue">laudable</font>: Hey, downloaded the 1.3 patch for DOW yet? <font color="red">FABIO</font>: that patch aint going to do much good with the game not installed <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Hmm. That's probably true. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: So you're done with it then <font color="red">FABIO</font>: unless some really amazing and drastic change occurs <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Well, the changes are fairly extensive, but not what I'd call amazing. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I'll write a big long rambling post on Caltrops then <font color="red">FABIO</font>: link me to the list of changes <font color="blue">laudable</font>: <a href="http://www.mofunzone.com/game_patch_downloads/warhammer_40_000_dawn_of_war_1_3.shtml">http://www.mofunzone.com/game_patch_downloads/warhammer_40_000_dawn_of_war_1_3.shtml</a> <font color="blue">laudable</font>: My complaints focus on a few things not mentioned. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: how about that seer council <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Space Marines now have happy feet. It takes them all damn day to get into position if the terain isn't perfectl flat and featureless <font color="blue">laudable</font>: No Seer Council changes <font color="blue">laudable</font>: They're broken beyond repair now <font color="red">FABIO</font>: removal of versital stance? wha? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: You're ALWAYS in the versatile stance now <font color="red">FABIO</font>: i don't even remember that stance <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Your guys politely put away their guns and draw their knives when attacked by axe wielding orks <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Before I could order my guys to just keep firing <font color="red">FABIO</font>: oh wow they've fixed a bunch of bugs in the single player campaign, thank god <font color="blue">laudable</font>: That stance was mostly for Terminators and stuff <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Yeah, what a relief <font color="red">FABIO</font>: what the fuck? <font color="red">FABIO</font>: fixed bug where Exarchs could not be added while squad was moving. fixed bug where Exarchs could be built while squad was moving <font color="red">FABIO</font>: WHICH IS IT???? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Beats the fuck out of me. I read the bit about the Prism Tanks and decided I didn't like the Eldar anymore <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Defilers are now only 2 cap points <font color="blue">laudable</font>: So my friend made 10 of them. They were pretty much unstoppable <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Scouts are now barely animated walking cadavers <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I think they're weaker than cultists now <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I love how "Cultist reinforce time when in combat set to 12 seconds" is under Space Marines. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: They finally got around to alphabetizing my unit color schemes, but only in the multiplayer screen. In the color editor, they're still not alphabetical <font color="blue">laudable</font>: God knows what these developers smoke all day <font color="blue">laudable</font>: New feature: lag switching between non-game screens. Like moving from the main menu to the multiplayer menu. Or creating a new server. Fun! <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Also, it takes about 2 minutes longer to load levels for some reason <font color="red">FABIO</font>: i dont get half these changes <font color="blue">laudable</font>: And saved replays don't work again. Oops! <font color="red">FABIO</font>: possessed marines reduced cost, reduced effectiveness <font color="red">FABIO</font>: ......huh? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Meanwhile, Nob squad damage is increased. They weren't effective enough? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I thought they were hell on wheels <font color="red">FABIO</font>: pink horrors, reduced cost and effectiveness....huh? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Yeah what? :-( <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Nobody uses them, so whatever. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: nob squads were ungodly powerful, it's just they took FOREVER to build up to full strength <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Do the developers ever play the game? <font color="red">FABIO</font>: the problem with pink horrors has always been that you couldn't reinforce them, so if you lost one or two, you might as well delete the whole squad to make population room <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Cool, a squad that can't be reinforced. Great idea. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: plus the fact that they cost the same as the much much MUCH more powerful possessed marines <font color="red">FABIO</font>: wow, nothing about the completely ridiculous marine late game <font color="blue">laudable</font>: But they're called HORRORS OHNOS. The name makes them kickass <font color="red">FABIO</font>: or the worthless chaos obliterators <font color="blue">laudable</font>: No, it's easier and quicker to get there! Look, the third upgrade to the marine fortress is cheaper and quicker <font color="red">FABIO</font>: jesus fuck <font color="blue">laudable</font>: The game plays totally differently now <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I really can't tell you how weird it is <font color="red">FABIO</font>: drop one minimal strength squad with force commander right into enemy base, orbital bombard to instantly destroy half of it <font color="red">FABIO</font>: let force commander die, build new one with fresh orbital bombardment ready to go <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I guess any game based on the Games Workshop crap would have to change the rules every week. That's just how they do it for some reason. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: building a new one is much quicker than waiting for bombardment to recharge <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Really? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I hadn't noticed that. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Insane. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: and being able to orbital drop dreadnaughts 0_O <font color="blue">laudable</font>: That's just fucking huge <font color="red">FABIO</font>: if they just made it so you could only drop hellfire dreadnaughts <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I was about to say that I generally don't build predators or landraiders, just dreadnoughts <font color="red">FABIO</font>: it would make drop less broken, plus hellfires would actually have a use <font color="blue">laudable</font>: That'd be a pretty good idea. As it is, nobody builds them unless they're short on power for some reason <font color="red">FABIO</font>: predators/landraiders are useful for going around the map taking out listening posts, that's about it <font color="red">FABIO</font>: so they STILL haven't fixed building listening posts on points you're trying to capture? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I send out landspeeders for that job. Way faster and way cheaper. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: No, now the AI does it <font color="blue">laudable</font>: It'll drop listening posts three or more times while you're trying to take it. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: still no eldar turret fix <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Yeah, they can still build wherever they feel like it <font color="red">FABIO</font>: i take it warp spiders still tear orks the fuck apart <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Of course <font color="red">FABIO</font>: and now orcs have to wait longer to get vehicles <font color="blue">laudable</font>: And the wartruck is weaker <font color="red">FABIO</font>: warp spiders: evaporate orc infantry, get anti-vehicle grenades to kill their vehicles <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Meanwhile chaos builds 10 deflilers and plunges the universe into darkness <font color="blue">laudable</font>: GO CHAOS <font color="blue">laudable</font>: My new favorite race <font color="red">FABIO</font>: yeah marine infantry seems kind of doomed against that <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Plus the marine infantry are like dogs circling three times to lie down. They don't want to set themselves. They move around, never shoot their missiles, die. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: It says the force commander's stun time is reduced in the Space Marine section, but I think that applies to all the commanders <font color="red">FABIO</font>: i thought only the FC stunned people <font color="red">FABIO</font>: it was ridiculous, the FC won every single commander duel no matter what <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Oh! <font color="red">FABIO</font>: hmmmm should I buy the expansion pack o_O <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I see, I thought it was the time he gets stunned when a missile flattens him <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Gee <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Do you have money that you were planning to set on fire? <font color="blue">laudable</font>: This would be a slightly worse use for it. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: the FC stunned people with his hammer from time to time <font color="red">FABIO</font>: if he did it to your commander, he just kept doing it over and over and you never got to fight back <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Neato <font color="red">FABIO</font>: i always thought they should delay when you could get a commander <font color="red">FABIO</font>: getting them right out of a barracks was ridiculous at the stage in the game where all you had was basic infantry and skirmishers <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I remember being shocked at how powerful they were. It forces you to build your own immediately or build a couple turrets <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Infantry just has no chance, even if you have lots of it <font color="blue">laudable</font>: A farseer can eat two entire squads of marines early in the game <font color="red">FABIO</font>: yeah, it really cuts down on your starting diversity strategies <font color="red">FABIO</font>: two strategies: 1. get a commander right away, 2. Die <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Hmm. <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I can't decide <font color="blue">laudable</font>: You should load it up and get a good angry feeling going. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: anger leads to hate :-( <font color="blue">laudable</font>: I have to buy the expansion, unfortunately. I have a morbid curiosity about this now. <font color="red">FABIO</font>: mail me your frisbee coaster when done <font color="blue">laudable</font>: Haha will do.[/quote]