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The really big tech companies have dual career ladders for engineers / managers by blackwater 08/19/2022, 12:55am PDT
For example all the FAANGs (Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, etc.) have an engineering career ladder which is separate from the management one. This is one way of figuring out whether you work for a tech company, or just a company that uses technology. If going into management is viewed as the only way to advance, chances are you're in Dilbert-space and you should leave.

But you did say startup, so who knows! Most startups are doomed, but you knew that already. It's fun when your pirate ship and its zany crew of misfits somehow beats the odds and actually finds the treasure and comes back to port (IPO / acquisition)

I've had the damndest experiences at startups. I had one guy try to sell me on taking a crappy job offer for his startup because when he founded his next startup (the one AFTER the one he was trying to recruit me to) he would surely remember me. I wanted to stop and ask him, does that actually work on anyone?

I've had people pay me in stacks of bills and tell me not to put it in a bank. (That company didn't last long, nor did I stay long after that particular escapade.)

I was at one company that decided to "pivot" to iPhone games a week or two after I was hired (their original business was not related to games or iphones) No I don't know objective C, no I don't want to learn! That didn't last long either.

Ah, good times.
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Why do all managers want you to become a manager? by E. L. Koba 08/16/2022, 5:10pm PDT NEW
    so you can spread your powers. Imagine. More of you. by Guy that inlines goatse in 50% of h 08/16/2022, 5:23pm PDT NEW
        Re: so you can spread your powers. Imagine. More of you. by E. L. Koba 08/18/2022, 4:38pm PDT NEW
    Because our success is measured based on you visibly growing your career by Fullofkittens 08/16/2022, 6:09pm PDT NEW
        Yes, I also don't care about your career by E. L. Koba 08/18/2022, 4:55pm PDT NEW
            Re: Yes, I also don't care about your career by hO 08/18/2022, 5:39pm PDT NEW
    Re: Why do all managers want you to become a manager? by Mysteriobama 08/16/2022, 6:39pm PDT NEW
        Re: Why do all managers want you to become a manager? by E. L. Koba 08/18/2022, 4:56pm PDT NEW
    The really big tech companies have dual career ladders for engineers / managers by blackwater 08/19/2022, 12:55am PDT NEW
        Making iPhone games sound dope yo! NT by Texas Jeet 08/19/2022, 5:51am PDT NEW
            most iphone apps disappear without a trace by blackwater 08/19/2022, 4:11pm PDT NEW
    Update - they fired everyone above me by E. L. Koba 11/04/2022, 1:37pm PDT NEW
        Finally, a story with a happy ending. NT by blackwater 11/08/2022, 2:23pm PST NEW
        Re: Update - they fired everyone above me by Entropy Stew 11/08/2022, 3:31pm PST NEW
            I did not realize that this guy was just putting a camera man in his regular wor by Kirahu Nagasawa 11/09/2022, 6:13am PST NEW
                That one really twists the knife in my heart by Entropy Stew 11/09/2022, 3:46pm PST NEW
                    THE ACCURACY by E. L. Koba (now the ebike guy) 11/10/2022, 3:04pm PST NEW
 
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