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by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 12:15am PDT |
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Lizard_King wrote:
If an American can live in this country and know as little about it as you do, for example, then I think it is fair to infer that people in other countries can make similar (although certainly much more understandable) mistakes. Socialism is not centrist by any historical standard in Europe. A general shift to the left in the past half-century is just that, and does not represent a need to recenter the political spectrum from the numerous centuries' establishment of basic political definitions to make your own views arbitrarily more palatable to others.
I know quite a bit about America and American history, thank you and I've got the college credits to prove it. Unlike you, what I know sends shivers up my spine at how utterly stupid and savage most Americans are. If Europeans are leftist in a historical sense now it's because they were fortunate enough to have most of their warmongers wiped right out of the genepool by WWII, which wouldn't do America a lick of good because much of our modern aristocracy (artistic celebrities aside) is composed of warmongers with only the occasional exception.
But all this is beside the point - we weren't discussing where Europeans were politically relative to their history, we were discussing where they are now. You came in unrequested and started making uninformed comments out of your ass about European politics without bothering to inform any of us that you were including the Europe of the 1920s as well. Shut the fuck up already, nobody cares.
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Ahhh, the French . . . by Senor Barborito 05/31/2003, 3:26pm PDT 
Re: Ahhh, the French . . . by foogla 06/02/2003, 5:30am PDT 
Jesus Christ by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 7:01pm PDT 
Re: Ahhh, the French . . . by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 10:30pm PDT 
JACKASS, HE *LIVES* IN MOTHERFUCKING GERMANY. SHUT. UP. NT by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 10:34pm PDT 
RIGHT, WHICH MEANS HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER, FUCKO. by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 10:41pm PDT 
You are making my head hurt with your stupidity by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 10:54pm PDT 
You are, fortunately, causing me no pain with yours. by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 11:18pm PDT 
Please, don't flatter yourself by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 12:15am PDT 
Your stuck with us fag. by Moab 06/03/2003, 1:37am PDT 
Ugh. Awful. by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 1:49am PDT 
Yeah by Moab 06/03/2003, 1:58am PDT 
Oh! by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 2:09am PDT 
it by Moab 06/03/2003, 2:26am PDT 
Re: it by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 2:59am PDT 
WTF? by Bill Dungsroman 06/03/2003, 11:42am PDT 
Yeah, it's good (n/t) by junior allen 06/03/2003, 4:05pm PDT 
INC just hates everything :( NT by Fussbett 06/03/2003, 4:06pm PDT 
Re: Your stuck with us fag. by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 3:32pm PDT 
It was funny. I laughed. NT by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 3:36pm PDT 
You had me at King Cock. NT by wide hurt 06/03/2003, 5:41pm PDT 
HI! You're still a fucking moron. by Steve Lollerson 06/03/2003, 11:31am PDT 
Hi! You're still banned for spamming. NT by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 3:13pm PDT 
HI! I'm back again. by Steve Lollerson 06/05/2003, 10:11am PDT 
Put yourself out of your misery. by Lizard_King 06/03/2003, 2:46pm PDT 
I sense some centrism here, and its not coming from the European left... NT by Charles DeGaulle 06/02/2003, 10:38pm PDT 
Boy, do I love frog legs. And pretending to win wars myself. And cock. NT by Charles "Greasy Chuck" DeGaulle 06/02/2003, 10:43pm PDT 
Re: Ahhh, the French . . . by foogla 06/03/2003, 5:15am PDT 
Re: Ahhh, the French . . . by Lizard_King 06/03/2003, 2:33pm PDT 
Re: Ahhh, the French . . . by foogla 06/03/2003, 3:46pm PDT 
Well, mostly by Senor Barborito 06/02/2003, 10:47pm PDT 
Reading the Al-Guardian will do that to you. NT by Lizard_King 06/02/2003, 11:19pm PDT 
I suppose you think I should watch fantasy news for construction workers (FOX) NT by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 12:17am PDT 
How about a variety of different British sources, dumbass? NT by Lizard_King 06/03/2003, 2:49pm PDT 
Because I read the Guardian for news MSNBC/CNN refuse to print? NT by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 3:12pm PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 1:48am PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by I need clarification 06/03/2003, 2:11am PDT 
I'll handle that question by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 2:57am PDT 
Don't be so hard on yourself. by Lizard_King 06/03/2003, 2:19pm PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by foogla 06/03/2003, 5:13am PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by DidC0tMaSSiF 06/03/2003, 8:34am PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by foogla 06/03/2003, 10:13am PDT 
Re: Well, mostly by DidC0tMaSSiF 06/03/2003, 8:07am PDT 
mE LuV yOu DidCOt by Bill Dungsroman (HSW) 06/03/2003, 11:46am PDT 
Good to see you, Didcot (n/t) by junior allen 06/03/2003, 4:39pm PDT 
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