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Re: This is my problem by bastage 08/17/2003, 11:20pm PDT
Senor Barborito wrote:

Yeah, I do realize that, but assuming (just for a second) no egress filtration from the source I'm not sure what prevents a forged source address in the IP layer off the packet from making this work?

I think I'm failing to take into account something very basic about subnets and basic routing here, though I can't place my finger on it - this is what happens from learning all of this stuff informally.

You're describing man-in-the-middle attack stuff here. First, it's not a trivial task to (remotely) determine a lot of what's going on between two other systems so I thnk you need to set some ground rules. Are you doing this with the other two parties actively involved ..? (Like your AIM file transfer idea.) Or are you trying to inject or steal stuff from either (both) of the people ..?

Your ideas are valid, but I can't see how they would be useful for file transfers. Like I said in another post, if your idea is to sniff passwords or inject bad data into the conversation this might be useful. (If memory serves Mitnicks big X-Mas hack did something similar.)
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Is Fussbett still here? by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 5:04pm PDT NEW
    Re: Is Fussbett still here? by Chairman Mao 08/15/2003, 5:10pm PDT NEW
        Re: Is Fussbett still here? by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 5:52pm PDT NEW
            Re: Is Fussbett still here? by whydirt, caltrops HALFLIFE2 08/15/2003, 6:14pm PDT NEW
                Mine just came back. by creativepig 08/15/2003, 7:00pm PDT NEW
                    Checking in by Fussbett 08/15/2003, 7:07pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Checking in by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 7:40pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Checking in by Bill Dungsroman 08/15/2003, 8:05pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Checking in by laudablepuss 08/15/2003, 8:13pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Checking in by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 8:24pm PDT NEW
                                Many datacenters/NOCs are extremely high-security for obvious reasons. NT by Senor Barborito 08/15/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
                                    BECAUSE THEY'RE HOLDING OVER 500 GIGS OF HOT HOT TRANSEXUAL PRON???????????????? NT by Tom-Foolery Constructor 08/16/2003, 3:48pm PDT NEW
                                        BREACH! BREACH! HACKER ALERT! WE'RE COMPROMISED! by The IT guy at ConED 08/16/2003, 4:27pm PDT NEW
                            Blaster by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/16/2003, 4:40pm PDT NEW
                                Is the Linksys blackholing all incoming traffic or not? by Senor Barborito 08/16/2003, 5:30pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Is the Linksys blackholing all incoming traffic or not? by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/16/2003, 8:13pm PDT NEW
                                        You do indeed misunderstand info on IM and blackholing traffic by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 1:54am PDT NEW
                                            The above post is very long. by Fussbett 08/17/2003, 3:36am PDT NEW
                                                Yes by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 3:42am PDT NEW
                                                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NT by Entropy Stew 08/21/2003, 10:49am PDT NEW
                                            Re: You do indeed misunderstand info on IM and blackholing traffic by corax 08/17/2003, 9:05pm PDT NEW
                                                This is my problem by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: This is my problem by bastage 08/17/2003, 11:20pm PDT NEW
                                                        It's useful because it creates a direct connection between two firewalled hosts by Senor Barborito 08/18/2003, 1:28am PDT NEW
                                                            Re: It's useful because it creates a direct connection between two firewalled hosts by bastage 08/18/2003, 8:54am PDT NEW
                                                                Don't use ACKs by Senor Barborito 08/21/2003, 11:17am PDT NEW
                                                                    Barbie's life strategy summed up in a single post header NT by Entropy Stew 08/21/2003, 2:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Funny. You bastard. Shit that really IS pretty funny. :( NT by Senor Barborito 08/21/2003, 6:23pm PDT NEW
                                Simply: by Entropy Stew 08/17/2003, 4:28pm PDT NEW
                                    Better suggestion by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 5:38pm PDT NEW
                                        Like they said. by laudablepuss 08/17/2003, 5:51pm PDT NEW
                                            Odds are it's not enabled anyway .. by bastage 08/17/2003, 7:36pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Odds are it's not enabled anyway .. by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/17/2003, 8:02pm PDT NEW
                                                Trillian's file-transfer abilities aren't worth the time it takes to spit on 'em NT by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 8:09pm PDT NEW
                                                    So in other words I'd have to grab the actual AIM client .. by bastage 08/17/2003, 8:42pm PDT NEW
                                                        What specific version is it ..? by bastage 08/17/2003, 8:53pm PDT NEW
                                                            I'm going to continue answering my own questions. by bastage 08/17/2003, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                                                I'm using an older beta than that by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 9:52pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: I'm using an older beta than that by bastage 08/17/2003, 10:07pm PDT NEW
                Re: Is Fussbett still here? by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 7:43pm PDT NEW
    Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by creativepig 08/15/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
        BECAUSE THEY WOULD CERTAINLY TELL US IF IT *WAS* TERRORISTS!!!! NT by Senor Barborito 08/15/2003, 8:29pm PDT NEW
        Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by I need clarification 08/15/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Fussbett 08/16/2003, 4:11am PDT NEW
                Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Entropy Stew 08/16/2003, 9:37am PDT NEW
                    Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Bill Dungsroman 08/18/2003, 12:01pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by laudablepuss 08/18/2003, 12:53pm PDT NEW
                Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by whydirt 08/16/2003, 12:40pm PDT NEW
 
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