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Re: It's useful because it creates a direct connection between two firewalled hosts by bastage 08/18/2003, 8:54am PDT
Senor Barborito wrote:

This relieves AOL of having to support the bandwidth of maintaining a file-transfer proxy service. Since the AIM client on Host A sends packets to Host B that appear (to Host B's firewall) to be part of Host B's second connection with AOL's IM servers (thanks to AOL's IM servers passing the sequence/IP combo with which to forge the packet to Host A on the first connection to Host A), they pass through the firewall and to Host B, where the AIM client grabs the data and forges a similar packet (with the sequence/IP combo mirroring Host A's second connection to AOL's IM server).

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I really need someone who understands basic IP routing better than I do to tell me if this is all a pipe dream. I suspect it is, but it would be extermely cool if AOL could tunnel a direct connection through two firewalls set to blackhole like this.

So where would the ACKs go ..? Back to AIM HQ ..? (Since he's the 'source' ..)

Like I've said a few times, what you're talking about it is not impossible but I think it would be too kludgy to be effectively used for something like a file transfer. (How would window sizes be effectively negotiated ..? How about error correction ..? etc.)
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                                Many datacenters/NOCs are extremely high-security for obvious reasons. NT by Senor Barborito 08/15/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
                                    BECAUSE THEY'RE HOLDING OVER 500 GIGS OF HOT HOT TRANSEXUAL PRON???????????????? NT by Tom-Foolery Constructor 08/16/2003, 3:48pm PDT NEW
                                        BREACH! BREACH! HACKER ALERT! WE'RE COMPROMISED! by The IT guy at ConED 08/16/2003, 4:27pm PDT NEW
                            Blaster by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/16/2003, 4:40pm PDT NEW
                                Is the Linksys blackholing all incoming traffic or not? by Senor Barborito 08/16/2003, 5:30pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Is the Linksys blackholing all incoming traffic or not? by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/16/2003, 8:13pm PDT NEW
                                        You do indeed misunderstand info on IM and blackholing traffic by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 1:54am PDT NEW
                                            The above post is very long. by Fussbett 08/17/2003, 3:36am PDT NEW
                                                Yes by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 3:42am PDT NEW
                                                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NT by Entropy Stew 08/21/2003, 10:49am PDT NEW
                                            Re: You do indeed misunderstand info on IM and blackholing traffic by corax 08/17/2003, 9:05pm PDT NEW
                                                This is my problem by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: This is my problem by bastage 08/17/2003, 11:20pm PDT NEW
                                                        It's useful because it creates a direct connection between two firewalled hosts by Senor Barborito 08/18/2003, 1:28am PDT NEW
                                                            Re: It's useful because it creates a direct connection between two firewalled hosts by bastage 08/18/2003, 8:54am PDT NEW
                                                                Don't use ACKs by Senor Barborito 08/21/2003, 11:17am PDT NEW
                                                                    Barbie's life strategy summed up in a single post header NT by Entropy Stew 08/21/2003, 2:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Funny. You bastard. Shit that really IS pretty funny. :( NT by Senor Barborito 08/21/2003, 6:23pm PDT NEW
                                Simply: by Entropy Stew 08/17/2003, 4:28pm PDT NEW
                                    Better suggestion by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 5:38pm PDT NEW
                                        Like they said. by laudablepuss 08/17/2003, 5:51pm PDT NEW
                                            Odds are it's not enabled anyway .. by bastage 08/17/2003, 7:36pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Odds are it's not enabled anyway .. by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/17/2003, 8:02pm PDT NEW
                                                Trillian's file-transfer abilities aren't worth the time it takes to spit on 'em NT by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 8:09pm PDT NEW
                                                    So in other words I'd have to grab the actual AIM client .. by bastage 08/17/2003, 8:42pm PDT NEW
                                                        What specific version is it ..? by bastage 08/17/2003, 8:53pm PDT NEW
                                                            I'm going to continue answering my own questions. by bastage 08/17/2003, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                                                I'm using an older beta than that by Senor Barborito 08/17/2003, 9:52pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: I'm using an older beta than that by bastage 08/17/2003, 10:07pm PDT NEW
                Re: Is Fussbett still here? by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/15/2003, 7:43pm PDT NEW
    Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by creativepig 08/15/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
        BECAUSE THEY WOULD CERTAINLY TELL US IF IT *WAS* TERRORISTS!!!! NT by Senor Barborito 08/15/2003, 8:29pm PDT NEW
        Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by I need clarification 08/15/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Fussbett 08/16/2003, 4:11am PDT NEW
                Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Entropy Stew 08/16/2003, 9:37am PDT NEW
                    Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by Bill Dungsroman 08/18/2003, 12:01pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Hey you know what my favourite part of this whole blackout thing was? by laudablepuss 08/18/2003, 12:53pm PDT NEW
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