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Fullofkittens wrote:
Fussbett wrote:
Fullofkittens wrote:
goth ... Layne Staley and Billy Corgan
I guess I can buy Smashing Pumpkins being "goth" in the weepy and eyeliner end of their career, but Alice in Chains?!
I guess it's not "goth" in the purest sense. It's the commercialism of boo-hoo-I'm-so-goddamn-hurting-inside. "Down In A Hole" = "Disarm." It's a ploy. The point at which that whole angst-ridden self-hating vibe becomes obnoxious is the exact moment that the practitioner seems self-serving. Contrived. To a large degree, that whole thing is a product of 90's targeted-demographic marketing - they realized the disaffected kids had money to spend, so they nailed us. I didn't - and don't - like to feel like some suit with a focus group decided what record I would buy, and both of those bands made me feel that way. Back in the day. Now I'm in an age group that nobody cares about - we don't pay for our music. I'm sure there's some analogous band out nowadays, though.
Note that both Smashing Pumpkins and Alice In Chains have good songs which I love. SP: "Glynis," "Drown," "Rhinocerous." Alice In Chains: "Would?" Those songs don't smack of crass the-kids-will-eat-this-up mentality.
The fact he died alone at 34 of a drug overdose (and was found decaying at his home two weeks later!) and not on Reunion Tour XXIV earns him that. |
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Contents of Incoming folder 1: examined anew by Zseni 10/23/2004, 7:27am PDT 
I like music, too: The Arcade Fire by conflictNo 10/23/2004, 5:15pm PDT
Re: I like music, too: The Arcade Fire by Zseni 10/24/2004, 8:14am PDT
Joy Division comparisons are the new Hitler. by conflictNo 10/24/2004, 7:38pm PDT
Graphical aids are the new comedy. by Zseni 10/24/2004, 8:17pm PDT
Re: Joy Division comparisons are the new Hitler. by Mysterio 10/25/2004, 10:13pm PDT
Re: I like music, too: The Arcade Fire by Fullofkittens 10/24/2004, 8:29pm PDT
Re: I like music, too: The Arcade Fire by Zseni 10/24/2004, 8:54pm PDT
The Arcade Fire, Smashing Pumpkins and British Sea Power ALL suck NT by kthor 10/25/2004, 10:03am PDT
You're too young to be so bitter. by Zseni 10/25/2004, 12:40pm PDT
You've won - Conratulations! by Entropy Stew 10/25/2004, 2:48pm PDT
Re: You've won - Conratulations! by whydirt 10/25/2004, 3:01pm PDT
Re: You're too young to be so bitter. by Creexul ^_^ 10/25/2004, 2:57pm PDT
them's some FAT AYUSS PARAGRAPHS!!!!!!!! NT by kthor 10/25/2004, 3:39pm PDT
Well if it isn't the Caltrops Brain Trust, come to tell me to stop being happy. by Zseni 10/25/2004, 4:14pm PDT
Another two session week with the family psycho-analyst for you. by Mind Trust Member #477 10/25/2004, 4:37pm PDT
wow, you're yelling at me with garbage juice dripping from your fat mouf NT by kthor 10/25/2004, 4:48pm PDT
Re: You're too young to be so bitter. by ACTUALLY A REGULAR 10/25/2004, 5:44pm PDT
Re: You're too young to be so bitter. by Fullofkittens 10/25/2004, 6:25pm PDT
goth by Fussbett 10/25/2004, 9:13pm PDT
Re: goth by Fullofkittens 10/25/2004, 9:34pm PDT
You officially don't know what you're talking about, thanks. NT by Enjoy the cubical. 10/25/2004, 9:49pm PDT
What's a "cubical"? by The Internet 10/25/2004, 10:43pm PDT
Re: What's a "cubical"? by FoK is the internet is a retard? 10/25/2004, 11:14pm PDT
That's a cubicle. NT by The Internet 10/26/2004, 12:00am PDT
You're still a retard. NT by Thanks for clearing that up. 10/26/2004, 1:11am PDT
Am I still FoK? NT by The Internet 10/26/2004, 2:12am PDT
Well, NT by it works either way. 10/26/2004, 2:44am PDT
Re: goth by Fussbett 10/25/2004, 11:56pm PDT
"Angsty." Check. NT by Fullofkittens 10/26/2004, 5:28am PDT
I think Layne Staley gets a free pass. by Arbit 10/29/2004, 1:35am PDT
At what point exactly did you decide to parody yourself? by Bill Dungsroman 10/25/2004, 6:42pm PDT
This thread could have been an opportunity to heal. NT by conflictNo 10/25/2004, 9:59pm PDT
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