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Why are people queuing up to argue with me about Quake and TF2? by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:22pm PDT
Entropy Stew wrote:

Source engine games consistently clock up very high framerates in benchmarks. Buy a vid card that isn't made out of leaves and pine cones. And you don't think that motherfucking Valve can get on the horn with nVidia or ATI any time they need to? You don't think they have a direct line to people at both companies? You don't think the Source engine is part of the standard vid card regression tests, like Quake 3? Idiot.


Of course I think those things. Valve has the same opportunities to be great that JC did. But a lack of ability and/or motivation blunts the possibilities for them.


In contrast, many parts of the TF2 engine appear sloppy and disinterested (particle effects


What?! Ok, here's what I think your problem is: you don't understand TF2's art direction.


If this had been posted on any other forum, I'd have had to copy and paste it here. If it was on another forum AND you were talking about a JRPG, Creexul would have copy-pasted for me.

Select whichever of these art directions you best understand and explain them to all of us.
- Splashing water visible through two floors and for long after the normal duration of a splash
- Boxing gloves scurry along floor when nemesis is in tunnels below you
- Medic heal beam whipsaws in and out of the ceiling underneath medic's feet
- Finite number of server joins per session before water turns purple and doors go wireframe
- Pyro flame animation exists on Pyro that is not firing

BONUS: locate (I promise it exists) and read their developer blog about why it is TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for non-hitscan weapons to hit where the crosshair points.

Might be the DirectX vs. OpenGL thing. Alt-tabbing is a big problem in most games.


No, I was giving them a pass on alt-tabbing. Any in-game change to the resolution, AA settings, Lighting mode, etc while connected to a server makes TF2 shit its pants (observed on Radeon and GeForce). You can change these things while not connected with no problem. It probably IS a difficult problem, which is why I'm impressed by a game that solves it (P.S. a decade ago)!
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Quake Live by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 6:35pm PST NEW
    FUCK YOU VALVE YOU LOST ME AS A CUSTOMER (GONE 2 QUAKE) NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 6:59pm PST NEW
        You are in line, take a number (#13668) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:00pm PST NEW
            The ultimate slow-off, 3Drealms already has the lead. NT by Worm 02/24/2009, 7:01pm PST NEW
            Then you get spawn killed and go back to the end of the line by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:16pm PST NEW
                My Scout update download and QL queue are racing NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:32pm PST NEW
                    Unfuckingbelievable - they held us in suspense just to announce the poll result? by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:39pm PST NEW
                        They also rolled out the patch NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2009, 7:42pm PST NEW
                            Without the Double Payload map shown in that screenshot NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:45pm PST NEW
                                And Quake Live hates Google Chrome. NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 7:52pm PST NEW
                                    I got to play one full match, now Punkbuster kicks me after less than a minute NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:59pm PST NEW
                                        "Server Disconnected - Punkbuster kicked player 'Fortinbras' (for 0 minutes) by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 10:50pm PST NEW
                                            File a bug? by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:55pm PST NEW
                                                I got your bug report right here! by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 5:06pm PST NEW
                                                    Update: Fixed on Firefox by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:17pm PST NEW
    A video explaining how to play deathmatch. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/24/2009, 8:38pm PST NEW
        this is the paradigm shift that fps games have been needing since HL2/Crysis NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:43pm PST NEW
    yay I was 75th in line waiting for the game to let me in o boy can't wait by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:48pm PST NEW
        email finally showed up, I click the automatic link, now I'm 1754 in line by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/24/2009, 8:50pm PST NEW
            Gimme your usernames NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:21pm PST NEW
            Fuck you NT by Utvgfdpx 02/24/2009, 9:26pm PST NEW
                Whoa, the spam is getting hostile! NT by Fortinbras 02/24/2009, 9:57pm PST NEW
            This queue thing is fucking embarassing. 24 hours of epic fuckups. by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 2:51pm PST NEW
                It went into open beta without a player limit by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 2:58pm PST NEW
                    I guess I underestimate the nuances of queue-coding? by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 3:06pm PST NEW
        Prediction: failure by Ray of Light 02/25/2009, 3:16pm PST NEW
            Re: Prediction: failure by Fussbett 02/25/2009, 4:35pm PST NEW
                what prevents anyone from entering a game that's below their skill level? NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/25/2009, 6:13pm PST NEW
                This is already happening by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 6:14pm PST NEW
                    Apparently all matches are currently running unranked, so... by Fortinbras 02/25/2009, 7:09pm PST NEW
    Initial impressions by Entropy Stew 02/25/2009, 9:11pm PST NEW
    no points for assists? it's 2009, get with the fucking times by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:14pm PST NEW
        Nice half of a kill, fag by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 6:23pm PST NEW
            that's what kill stealers need to hear NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 6:29pm PST NEW
            I think this actually came out better with the typo NT by Entropy Stew 02/26/2009, 7:17pm PST NEW
    also, no widescreen support, and really: by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:24pm PST NEW
        Re: also, no widescreen support, and really: by Ray of Light 02/26/2009, 7:25pm PST NEW
            This kind of proves the point I think. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 3:19am PST NEW
            I didn't even hate qt3arena but come on the games that came out at that time by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/27/2009, 3:49am PST NEW
                Counter-Strike made Caek 3 Arena look like Pong. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/27/2009, 7:04am PST NEW
                    You mean the lost decade? To help ex-CS'ers get up to speed I like to wear this by Ray of Light 02/27/2009, 10:46am PST NEW
                    Q3A is id's best game. I know! I can't believe it either! by mark 02/27/2009, 12:46pm PST NEW
                        I like Q3A as much as the next guy, unless that guy thinks it's better than DOOM NT by Jerry Whorebach 02/27/2009, 1:10pm PST NEW
                Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Matt 02/28/2009, 1:35am PST NEW
                    Re: Other things you could have done in 5475 hours: by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/28/2009, 3:37am PST NEW
    ok here is a few positive notes I can add on cake life by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2009, 4:34pm PST NEW
    Re: Quake Live by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:44pm PDT NEW
        *immediately goes back to playing 2fort* NT by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 9:46pm PDT NEW
            No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 10:08pm PDT NEW
                Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 10:21pm PDT NEW
                    Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:34pm PDT NEW
                        "most games require their own PC" -- brains of Cable Bros. (viral marketers) by Ray of Light 03/10/2009, 11:22pm PDT NEW
                            You can probably get even better framerates from Daikatana. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:33pm PDT NEW
                                That is not a smart thing to say. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 12:21am PDT NEW
                                    So you can't get a better framerate from Daikatana? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 1:56am PDT NEW
                                    so you can't run a new game but can run a shitty old game NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 2:57am PDT NEW
                                        "Does what I am about to say make sense? Are there any details I have missed?" NT by Jsoh's discarded autism checklist 03/11/2009, 4:38am PDT NEW
                                            He didn't mention that ray does nothing all day long but play 2fort. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 4:40am PDT NEW
                                            "no" NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:51am PDT NEW
                                                Re: "no" by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 5:44am PDT NEW
                                    You're fucking retarded by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:31am PDT NEW
                                        12x pixels 5x framerate by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:07am PDT NEW
                                            Noep, Quake's engine is just older. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:31am PDT NEW
                                            Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 10:34am PDT NEW
                                                Re: Special Replying to my Own Post Edition: multicore support by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:38pm PDT NEW
                                                    I also remember disabling it in Q3 because of bugs NT by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:42pm PDT NEW
                                                        You have made two ridiculous claims. by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:37pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 1:02pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Choson 03/11/2009, 2:32pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: 12x pixels 5x framerate by Mysterious Stranger 03/11/2009, 4:03pm PDT NEW
                                                        Is this the first time ever that someone has repeated a Choson joke? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:21pm PDT NEW
                                                            What's a "Statician"? NT by Caltrops Anonymous Stupidity Patrol 03/11/2009, 8:25pm PDT NEW
                                                ES getting mad at games again, keyboard flipped so hard it projects NT by FABIO 03/11/2009, 2:57pm PDT NEW
                                                    Ray's stupid fucking assertions are a game? by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 4:26pm PDT NEW
                                                        Fabio sucked NT by Admit it 09/20/2024, 2:16pm PDT NEW
                                                Why are people queuing up to argue with me about Quake and TF2? by Ray of Light 03/11/2009, 9:22pm PDT NEW
                                        Jso and I do not permit him to have autism. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 10:30am PDT NEW
                Re: No! I didn't even mention the greatest personal selling point (for me) by Fussbett 03/10/2009, 10:24pm PDT NEW
                    Haha. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 10:32pm PDT NEW
                        replace the move names, that chart works with all the others NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/10/2009, 11:41pm PDT NEW
                            Yeah like anyone plays any other characters. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/10/2009, 11:43pm PDT NEW
                        Balrog's by Entropy Stew 03/11/2009, 9:22am PDT NEW
                        Ken by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 12:04pm PDT NEW
        TF2 runs great for me NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 5:09pm PDT NEW
            EVEN THE SHACKTOWN OG CAN FIELD THE NECESSARY KIT, RAY NT by Entropy Stew 03/12/2009, 2:32pm PDT NEW
                I hope this doesn't embarrass Ray. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 2:36pm PDT NEW
    Complaints by Fussbett 03/11/2009, 11:30am PDT NEW
        the only important thing to note at all: by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 4:34pm PDT NEW
            Is this the millionth time time Weyoun hasn't liked something and told us so? NT by Caltrops Statician 03/11/2009, 7:24pm PDT NEW
                Yeah, Fabio gets away with it because he's handsome, but fuck this guy. NT by Quétinbec 03/11/2009, 8:40pm PDT NEW
                the answer: negative, pay more attention to caltrops posts next time maybe you'l NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/11/2009, 8:58pm PDT NEW
                Why would anyone post about what they think on a message board, it's just ridicu NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/11/2009, 11:53pm PDT NEW
                    it's a bannable offense on qt3 NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 12:01am PDT NEW
                        *rips off Clatrops Statician's mask to reveal Tom Chick* NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 12:12am PDT NEW
                            caltrops statician, public SHITIOT number one NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/12/2009, 2:41am PDT NEW
                                WE'RE IN THE EYE OF A SHITTICAINE NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/12/2009, 3:56am PDT NEW
 
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