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In response to Blackwater posts re: SARS Cov-2 by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 09/27/2022, 11:18am PDT
I did not see the information presented in the message link in the response message I am responding to, However, for the sake of argument, I'll examine and respond to the point made.

We should have lifted the lockdowns after a week or two when it became clear that the virus was not the Black Death.

It's often said that hindsight is two years ago, but to put it bluntly, we didn't know that. When Covid-19 was discovered, since it is a variant of SARS (Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome), and given we had no other information available, we would have to presume it will act in the same or similar manner. Taking a quick look at the CDC's website, in the original outbreak of SARS-CoV (which we would now call SARS Cov-1) of 2003, 8,098 people were infected, worldwide, and 774 died. Whether the number is low because the infected population was quickly quarantined or it wasn't easy to spread, I’m not going to speculate. What this means is SARS variants could be expected to have about a 9.6% mortality rate. SARS Cov-2/COVID-19 can spread to the general public, and very rapidly. In the US alone, with 350 million people, we can expect as many as 30 million dead.

That would be a disaster. Fortunately, COVID has "only" about a 1% death rate. In the US alone, if we did nothing to stop it, t+hat's about 3 million dead, and hundreds of millions infected, probably almost all of 350 million people. This would literally destroy the healthcare system, which is not designed to handle huge numbers of simultaneously sick patients, extrapolated over worldwide population, I'll presume approximately 1 billion people are so isolated or unreachable that they won't be exposed. So, of the 6 billion people in or close to industrial civilization, we can expect 600 million dead. Worldwide, currently, there are about 6 million dead. Remember that number; I'll come back to it later.

Current statistics show in the US, 1.05 million dead, 6 million worldwide. That means the lockdown in the US saved approximately an estimated two million people, with about 95 million known infected, approx. an estimated 200 million infections were prevented. (We will never know the actual numbed of people not, infected, because you can't know how many events dp not happen.) That the current worldwide death toll of 6 million tracks with the "do nothing" scenario I gave above, shows that in the undeveloped parts of the world it spread like wildfire.

We should have locked down the old and sick, not everyone.

Again, we did not know this at the time. Also, we didn't know (and as I mentioned above) who would catch it, and probably hundreds of millions more who would have become sick.

Politicians who moved COVID patients into nursing homes should have been prosecuted for this.

Exactly where could we put them? Once someone is exposed, they may be infected. (The ones that aren't - a small number of people - are naturally immune.) Of tho ones infected, some will have no symptoms at all, but can spread it (a carrier). Some who are infected will only have minor symptoms (in my case, when I was in isolation after testing positive for COVID-19, all I got was I got sick for one day and threw up, once). There are people who get major ones, including, but not limited to: loss of taste, mental illness, blood clots, and headache, sometimes months after infection. Then there are the people on a ventilator, who probably won't survive; and others who do, but with debilitating conditions. The serious cases would have flooded hospitals with so many patients, we'd have a situation in the medical community, twice as bad as we do now.

We should have gotten a vaccine even faster than we did and done challenge trials.

Are you serious? Typically, the time it takes to develop a vaccine for a medical condition is not measured in months or years, but in decades. One of the other serious diseases - I can't remember which - was discovered in the mid '80s, but it took until the 200s before a vaccine was discovered.

The original estimates of 3 years for a vaccine, if we were lucky, was based on very optimistic predictions, using the best case scenario, In fact, at the time I thought this was optimistic. When I heard that one had been developed in only 18 months, I was suspicious, and at the time I was leery of the vaccine and wasn't sure I should get it. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I don't necessarily want to be a guinea pig for a bad product rushed to the market. When I heard that the reason a vaccine was discovered so quickly was because scientists had found a cure because of the research done on the original strain of SARS, back in 2003, and research done since them. Amount of time they had been researching: 18 years,

As for "challenge tests," what do you think they were doing? There is a commercial for IBM, where in a medieval castle, some subjects are petitioning the king to do something about the dragon that's been terrorizing his subjects (presumably feeding on barbecued peasant farmers). He has called in a couple of consultants to advise him on what they could use on the dragon. They walk in, in stereotypical clothing for that era, and drop a closed canvas bag on the table that clinks when it lands. The king looks at them, and incredulously says, "You want me to throw money at it?"

This is exactly what the US government did, offering grants to drug companies to develop a vaccine. Even I realized that the first company to develop a vaccine would make billions. When a vaccine was discovered, the government paid them cost of production (plus a profit), paid distributors to get the vaccine to doctors, health departments, hospitals, nursing homes, pharmacies, and prisons. Then They were paid for the cost of distributing the vaccine to everybody. The government used the effective practice of shoveling money to suppliers during an emergency, then once it's over, look for cases of fraud or improper use of funds.

At that point, a board would sift through all the billing records fot things like overpayments. It's not your fault you were overpaid because of government error, but you do have to pay it back. If you do, that's the end of the matter, Then there is misconduct, i.e. fraud: double billing, expensing other projects with money directed only for government projects, billing for work never performed, These have to be paid back, with penalties and in egregious cases, criminal prosecution. They did this during World War II, pay first, then when the war is over, audit the books.

So the government did the one thing it does well: pay for research and development, then let industry make the developments. This brought us many spectacular things, including the Internet, GPS, and the space program. From the latter, we got wireless patient monitoring, memory foam, freeze-dried food, and firefighting equipment, among many others.

The virus was man-made by means of gain-of-function research, which is banned in the US (which is why they did it in China).

I have yet to see evidence of this, and no - revealed or secret - whistleblower(s) has/have appeared to leak this. Whenever someone thinks up a nefarious conspiracy theory, they usually don't consider how many people would have to be in on it for it to function. And the larger the number of conspirators, the more chances there are for it to leak out. And anyone who doesn't think things will leak is kidding themselves. Especially government conspiracies.
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