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by Bob Shishka 04/10/2003, 12:58am PDT |
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t0ny wrote:
the real facts
The constant of this sub-argument we're having revolves around facts versus spin. Reasons given versus ulterior motives. You cutting and pasting boring-ass student newspaper articles from November 2002 versus me suggesting that oil and money might play a factor. A FACTOR. I'd love to know the REAL FACTS about this war, Tony. The problem is that it's very hard to collect all those REAL FACTS, regardless of how many issues of CARNEGIE MELLON'S STUDENT NEWSPAPER I read. Here's that article summarized: Iraq has broken a bunch of UN resolutions, and Saddam is a jerk. Yeah, no shit. If that's the invasion lithmus test, then next up in the US World Invasion Tour 2003: Israel!
t0ny wrote:
You are obviously opposed to the US being there, no matter whether it is for a good reason or not, are not flexible of mind, and willing to flame anyone holding a contrary opinion.
Actually, Tony, I'm cautiously in favor of the US getting rid of Saddam. It's obviously going to result in lots of Good(tm). I'm cautious because there are some other elements in play that I'm not down with, some of which you admit to with apathy (while simultaneously cursing the Swiss wartime profiteering, which started all this). |
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Its in the Bhag, dad by t0ny 04/07/2003, 7:16pm PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by Hans Blix 04/08/2003, 12:08am PDT 
Not so fast by Senor Barborito 04/08/2003, 12:12am PDT 
What ever happened to that story that they shipped them all to Syria? by FABIO 04/08/2003, 12:27am PDT 
Re: What ever happened to that story that they shipped them all to Syria? by t0ny 04/08/2003, 1:08am PDT 
Re: What ever happened to that story that they shipped them all to Syria? by Chairman Mao 04/08/2003, 1:59am PDT 
You're a spin patient. by Bob Shishka 04/08/2003, 2:36am PDT 
Re: You're a spin patient. by t0ny 04/08/2003, 2:11pm PDT 
Re: You're a spin patient. by Bob Shishka 04/08/2003, 8:21pm PDT 
Re: You're a spin patient. by t0ny 04/09/2003, 3:11pm PDT 
Re: You're a spin patient. by Bob Shishka 04/10/2003, 12:58am PDT 
Re: I'm a spinning plate. by t0ny 04/10/2003, 3:28pm PDT 
I'm smart, I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time by I need clarification 04/08/2003, 4:51pm PDT 
Re: I'm smart, I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time by Dragon Worrier 04/08/2003, 5:07pm PDT 
Dude, Relativity cures Cancer. NT by Albert Motherfucking Einstein 04/08/2003, 10:11pm PDT 
Second funny INC post NT by Senor Barborito 04/10/2003, 7:09pm PDT 
Re: Not so fast by dragon worrier 04/08/2003, 12:52am PDT 
I am wholly incompetent by Hans Blix 04/08/2003, 1:37am PDT 
Re: I am wholly incompetent by dragon worrier 04/08/2003, 2:14am PDT 
addendumT by dragon worrier 04/08/2003, 2:25am PDT 
Re: addendumT by Hans Blix 04/08/2003, 3:02am PDT 
If it's a rationale or reason for invading Iraq you need... by Bill Dungsroman 04/08/2003, 4:49pm PDT 
Re: If it's a rationale or reason for invading Iraq you need... by t0ny 04/09/2003, 3:40pm PDT 
Obvious response by Senor Barborito 04/09/2003, 6:33pm PDT 
Idle, speculative responses by Ray, of Light 04/09/2003, 8:43pm PDT 
Re: Idle, speculative responses by Bill Dungsroman 04/09/2003, 10:21pm PDT 
Re: Idle, speculative responses by Ray, of Light 04/09/2003, 10:34pm PDT 
Re: Idle, speculative responses by Gubbi 04/10/2003, 7:43am PDT 
Re: Idle, speculative responses by t0ny 04/10/2003, 3:41pm PDT 
Actually by I need clarification 04/10/2003, 6:52pm PDT 
They found insecticide; Saddam wants NO FUCKING SURVIVORS when he explodes. by Colonel K 04/08/2003, 12:28am PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by MOAB 04/08/2003, 6:36am PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by Jhoh Creexul 04/08/2003, 6:54am PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by GunPanther 04/08/2003, 7:43am PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by Non-Meta Mischief Maker 04/08/2003, 9:33am PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by t0ny 04/08/2003, 2:19pm PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by Senor Barborito 04/09/2003, 6:30pm PDT 
Re: Its in the Bhag, dad by t0ny 04/10/2003, 3:44pm PDT 
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