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Re: One of those is bad, the other isn't by FABIO 06/03/2005, 12:52pm PDT
curst wrote:

1. Who the FUCK wants to FUCK with an inventory screen in a goddamn action game? FUCK that.


Yeah! MotherFUCK it!


The more I think about the fundamental concept of "FPS + RPG", the more I dislike the idea. This is one of the major reasons (the other being "skills systems" that ensure that even if your aim is right-between-the-eyes with every shot, you're still going to wind up grazing your enemy for 2HP damage because your pistol skill sucks, never mind that in almost all these game's you're supposed to be a fucking military-trained cyborg or some shit). Is there any better way to completely murder my immersion than to make me juggle inventory items around all day? Action RPGs work because the inventory management is kept to a minimum - in fact, my least favorite action RPG ever, Throne Of Darkness, sucked almost entirely because you had to dick around with inventory shit constantly. No FPS/RPG hybrid has ever figured this simple rule out. Limited inventory bullshit sucked in SS2, it sucked in DX1 even though it was mercifully far less commonplace than SS2, it sucked in Silent Hill 4 (never mind that it's not an FPS/RPG, the key is that the older games didn't have it, SH4 has it, and it does nothing but add frustration), and I didn't miss it at all in DX2. Fuck limited inventory.


I think someone here wrote an article about this o_O

SH4 was just carrying on the grand survival horror tradation of limited inventory+ammo/health = SCAREIRIER! For some reason this myth has persisted down the ages, despite being so obviously incorrect to anyone but OCD suffering gameFAG's writers. It was a tradition started with the first Resident Evil (or perhaps back with Atari's Haunted House, where you could only carry one of three key items at a time) where the inventory system was especially ridiculous for having each item you carry take up the same amount of space and making you discard them only at storage lockers.

The first Silent Hill and Fatal Frame games are the best, scariest survival horror games ever, and they give you plentiful health/ammo and an unlimited inventory. COINCIDENCE? It's just a fucking lazy crutch for lazy designers when they can't think of anything like ATMOSPHERE to make their game scary.


(Don't you have to hit a key to bring up the "these are your equipped items" HUD and then use the cursor to choose which item you want to equip and then hit an "equip item" key? I forget now but I remember thinking it was ridiculous.)


Independence War 2 was like this. They seemed obsessed with making it so every single menu and command could be reached by pressing the arrow keys enough times. Why simply press 'E' to bring up the engineering screen when you could hit down, left, up like you were launching a haidoken fireball? The whole thing just reeked of consolization from the "simplified" interface to the dumbing down of the repair and weapons systems. Yet to my knowledge, there was no console version. Bizzare.
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        Re: Playing Deus Ex makes me really fucking paranoid since 9/11 by FABIO 01/01/2003, 5:51am PST NEW
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                Steve Miller. (nt) by creativepig 01/01/2003, 11:02pm PST NEW
                    elaboration by Ray, of Light 01/02/2003, 3:03pm PST NEW
                    Re: Steve Miller. by TAFKAM 01/02/2003, 3:05pm PST NEW
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            Re: Playing Deus Ex makes me really fucking paranoid since 9/11 by curst 01/03/2003, 11:07am PST NEW
    Re: Playing Deus Ex makes me really fucking paranoid since 9/11 by Asmo 01/16/2003, 5:46am PST NEW
        The zeitgeist is obviously quite gay -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 01/16/2003, 5:12pm PST NEW
    Just finished it by MM Denton 06/02/2005, 12:24pm PDT NEW
        Question by MM Denton 06/02/2005, 2:42pm PDT NEW
            Not sure. But! by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/02/2005, 2:52pm PDT NEW
                a real ending was too much work by bombMexico 06/02/2005, 4:20pm PDT NEW
                    I liked that ending the best by Quentin Beck 06/03/2005, 3:21pm PDT NEW
            two of them, actually by FABIO 06/02/2005, 9:09pm PDT NEW
                They also ditched the entire menu and inventory system. by Creexul :( 06/02/2005, 9:17pm PDT NEW
                    One of those is bad, the other isn't by curst 06/03/2005, 12:10pm PDT NEW
                        Re: One of those is bad, the other isn't by FABIO 06/03/2005, 12:52pm PDT NEW
                        Re: One of those is bad, the other isn't by Creexul :( 06/03/2005, 7:05pm PDT NEW
                        Re: One of those is bad, the other isn't by Mischief Maker 06/03/2005, 8:51pm PDT NEW
                Re: two of them, actually by Mischief Maker 06/03/2005, 8:39pm PDT NEW
            Re: Question by Weyoun Voidbringer 06/02/2005, 9:16pm PDT NEW
        Re: Just finished it by Creexul :( 06/02/2005, 9:29pm PDT NEW
            Hey, that was actually kind of funny. by Arbit 06/02/2005, 10:50pm PDT NEW
                Re: Hey, that was actually kind of funny. by Creexul :( 06/03/2005, 12:48am PDT NEW
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            Someone else on this board also thought the internet was constantly policed NT by WHO COULD IT HAVE BEEN? 06/08/2005, 11:24pm PDT NEW
                Straw-man argument. NT by bink 06/08/2005, 11:58pm PDT NEW
 
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