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Re: It's true by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 02/24/2006, 11:18pm PST
motherfuckerfoodeater wrote:

It's true that the unwashed masses tend to be "against abortion" in some vague way, but would never put any teeth behind their "eww gross" reaction. This whole 5 years with no exceptions thing is definitely not going to go down well with the nation at large, and I suspect that even filthy ignorant South-Dekotans will end up feeling pretty negative about it.


Whether pro-life advocates would actually stand behind their talk isn't relevant to whether it's democratic or not. From early in the 20th Century until the late 1960s conducting abortions was a crime in all 50 states. When Roe was handed down, abortion was legal on demand in 4 states and available with various qualifications in 13 others, while it was still highly restricted in the remaining states. This regime was a product of voter choice, mostly through state legislature elections, but also through a handful of referenda. Then nine men chosen at the whim of president, including one appointed during the FDR administration, stepped in and decided the people weren't entitled to make the decision.

The South Dakota law isn't even presented as a legitimately enforceable precept. The governor has more or less stated "I'm pro-life so I'll sign it, since I know it will never take effect and the only consequence is a boost from my pro-life constituency" and the state legislators are lost in loon-june-moon haze saying things like "the stars are aligned"* and "South Dakotans care...we care about babies."** The courts will enjoin the state from enforcing the law before the ink has dried on it; it's an undue burden on the woman's access to abortion within the meaning of Casey. The law's key supporters and sponsors are not even expecting it to have a chance at the US Supreme Court, they're only doing it to see if the high court will hear it, which might give some hints on what the new justices would allow them to get away with in a future law restricting abortion, or if the Court will just summarily tell them to fuck off.

One other note, Dakotans seem to be a pretty pure people. Only 800 abortions were performed last year at the state's single clinic. If nothing else, these people lead by example.

* Actual quote from House Speaker Matthew Michels
** Actual quote from somebody whose name I can't find

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Progressive-thinking South Dakota first to attempt abortion ban by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 4:41am PST NEW
    Re: Progressive-thinking South Dakota first to attempt abortion ban by Fullofkittens 02/23/2006, 6:59am PST NEW
        I've never heard of that, I think she must have made it up for a laugh :( NT by One of QT3's many Doctors 02/23/2006, 12:20pm PST NEW
        FullofDeadKittens NT by MM 02/23/2006, 3:46pm PST NEW
    I also think that we should reopen the black market on abortions. by Mysterio 02/23/2006, 9:41am PST NEW
        Prepare to be satiated. NT by Chairman Mao 02/23/2006, 10:21am PST NEW
            Wow, with ZINGERs like that why the fuck did you ever leave? NT by Quenty McBeck 02/24/2006, 8:34am PST NEW
                DURR FAG NT NT NT by Chairman Mao 02/24/2006, 9:08am PST NEW
                    PREPARING FOR SATIATION! NT by Quenty McBeck 02/24/2006, 12:39pm PST NEW
    Re: Progressive-thinking South Dakota first to attempt abortion ban by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 02/24/2006, 7:42pm PST NEW
        Re: Progressive-thinking South Dakota first to attempt abortion ban by Souffle of Pain 02/24/2006, 9:28pm PST NEW
        This is actually patently untrue by motherfuckerfoodeater 02/24/2006, 9:34pm PST NEW
            Re: It's true by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 02/24/2006, 11:18pm PST NEW
                Ever hear of the phrase "tyranny of the majority"? by Coronation 02/25/2006, 1:09am PST NEW
                Re: It's true by I need clarification 02/25/2006, 1:22pm PST NEW
                    Re: It's true by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 02/25/2006, 1:45pm PST NEW
                        Re: It's true by Fussbett 02/25/2006, 3:17pm PST NEW
                            intricacies NT by Fussbett 02/25/2006, 3:17pm PST NEW
                        On second reading, I realize your post took no position at all. Apologies. :) NT by I need clarification 02/25/2006, 3:23pm PST NEW
                ZSENI NT by DAHLING 02/25/2006, 7:11pm PST NEW
 
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