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Re: Actually... by ydrt 04/06/2003, 6:27pm PDT
I've already mentioned this a couple times, but since you asked and I think it bears repeating, I'll say it again:

I think the main problem has been that there has just been too much discussion from the admins about what they're doing. Every time they post it gives people who have an axe to grind an opportunity to stir shit up again. You leave yourself much more guarded against crazy trolling if they have to initiate their attack on their own without a thread already there to latch on to. Plus a lot of this shit could be handled much more discreetly over email to the necessary people. Barbie could have kept his doubts about the author's authenticity on the downlow and this new thread of shit would have been mostly avoided.

Bill Dungsroman wrote:

Fullofkittens wrote:

Bill Dungsroman wrote:


In the meanwhile, does anyone want to address any of the things I brought up in my original post? Are we doing anything, are we planning to do anything? I can't believe I finally decided to talk seriously with you guys about this site and we can't even get past whether or not it's really me. Were my suggestions stupid?

BDR



The reason why a lot of us aren't posting responses is we feel (probably rightly) that we don't have any say over what happens to this site... much as I don't feel that I Need Clarification does. It's not my damn site. Who the hell is Fullofkittens? He doesn't contribute any of his resources to the site, all he does is lurk, talk about bands, and flame someone occasionally. If he thinks this site should be changed, he should get his own fucking site.

That goes for everybody that hasn't contributed an article. Zseni got herself banned because she's a stupid bitch, oh well - I guess the people that *really* run the site got sick of her crap. John Cable is Zseni's strapon buddy, and now he's crying foul (or, rather, "Chet! Cheeeeeeeettttt!") and he wants to leave. Mmkay. I'm sorry to hear that, I wish he wouldn't go. You "real" caltrops posters are having a major explosion and it's worrisome for those of us part-timers who enjoy the site (when it doesn't suck), but I guess I assumed that when you were asking for a response to yours you were only really asking the full-timers.

For the record:

#1: SB's life would be a lot happier if he stuck to bullshitting and let ES do the admin-talk. There are some major assholes here (Hi, INC!) and since he's been too revealing about his personal problems he's never going to be able to post something about admin without a major battle. ("SB:'I decided to change the way nicks are stored in the system. No one is affected but me.' INC:'I guess everyone can see now why SB is incompetent as an admin. Barbie, did you forget your meds?' Creex:'Thanks a lot, Chet. Fuck you.' SB:"No, FUCK YOU!" and so on.)

#2: Yes. But there must be some way of self-policing this, rather than making it policy. I guess we could add a rule that anyone that bitches about the way the site is being run is a fag.

#3, #4: Yes and yes.

#5: I like the obscure forum titles. It's not hard, at all, to figure out what they mean. When I came here in February, after I found out this was the post-OMM haven, I knew exactly what meant what in less than 2 minutes.

FoK


Everyone who visits this site on a regular basis should be allowed to give his opinion. Why the hell not, as long as its constructive and a potentially good idea.

On further consideration, maybe demanding that SB step down as admin was too harsh. I don't know. If the site really needs two admins, there obviously isn't anyone else who can do it except the two guys who already are. But this type of shit is going to go on and on forever, and I guess that's just going be part of the character of this site, whether anyone likes it or not. I guess I'll just learn (or re-learn) to like it as well.

BDR


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I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by Bill Dungsroman 04/05/2003, 9:12pm PST NEW
    Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by I need clarification 04/05/2003, 9:17pm PST NEW
    Almost positive this isn't BDR by Senor Barborito 04/05/2003, 9:31pm PST NEW
        zuh? by ydrt 04/05/2003, 9:37pm PST NEW
            Re: zuh? by Entropy Stew 04/05/2003, 10:09pm PST NEW
        It's me. by Bill Dungsroman 04/05/2003, 10:16pm PST NEW
            There's no email in my inbox yet by Senor Barborito 04/05/2003, 10:22pm PST NEW
                Re: There's no email in my inbox yet by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 10:32pm PST NEW
                    Re: There's no email in my inbox yet by veronica 04/05/2003, 10:36pm PST NEW
                        Re: There's no email in my inbox yet by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:04pm PST NEW
                        PS:!!!!!!! by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:07pm PST NEW
                            Re: PS:!!!!!!! by veronica 04/05/2003, 11:14pm PST NEW
                                Re: PS:!!!!!!! by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:23pm PST NEW
                                    And by the way. by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:26pm PST NEW
                                    Re: PS:!!!!!!! by veronica 04/05/2003, 11:28pm PST NEW
                                        Re: PS:!!!!!!! by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:45pm PST NEW
                                    For the record, no I'm not convinced by Senor Barborito 04/05/2003, 11:32pm PST NEW
                                        Re: For the record, no I'm not convinced by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:47pm PST NEW
                                        Re: For the record, no I'm not convinced by foogla 04/06/2003, 6:12am PDT NEW
                                        Re: For the record, no I'm not convinced by Bill Dungsroman 04/06/2003, 4:24pm PDT NEW
                                            The answer you seek was delivered to you by I need clarification 04/06/2003, 4:39pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: For the record, no I'm not convinced by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/06/2003, 4:58pm PDT NEW
                                            Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Fullofkittens 04/06/2003, 5:37pm PDT NEW
                                                Actually... by Bill Dungsroman 04/06/2003, 6:09pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Actually... by ydrt 04/06/2003, 6:27pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by FABIO 04/06/2003, 6:30pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Fullofkittens 04/06/2003, 6:38pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by FABIO 04/06/2003, 7:23pm PDT NEW
                                                            'anything' should be 'anyone' NT by FABIO 04/06/2003, 7:23pm PDT NEW
                                                            Forum titles cont'd. (sigh) by Fullofkittens 04/06/2003, 7:37pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Forum titles cont'd. (sigh) by foogla 04/06/2003, 7:50pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: Forum titles cont'd. (sigh) by Mysterio 04/07/2003, 12:35am PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Forum titles cont'd. (sigh) by FOF 04/07/2003, 12:24am PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Matt Boyd 04/07/2003, 12:16am PDT NEW
                                                        Oops by I need clarification 04/07/2003, 12:20am PDT NEW
                                                            SB: An example of what not to do when acting as a mouthpiece for a site. by Matt Boyd 04/07/2003, 12:40am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Entropy Stew 04/07/2003, 12:30am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Mysterio 04/07/2003, 12:45am PDT NEW
                                                            He's got my vote. NT by mrs. johnson 04/07/2003, 12:46am PDT NEW
                                                                It says "POST A REPLY." by FoK 04/07/2003, 12:50am PDT NEW
                                                                    Yeah by mrs. johnson 04/07/2003, 2:44am PDT NEW
                                                            Ace! by Mr. Palomar 04/07/2003, 1:08am PDT NEW
                                                Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Mr. Palomar 04/06/2003, 7:47pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Ray, of Light 04/06/2003, 10:21pm PDT NEW
                                                        Can't. Copyright. NT by Entropy Stew 04/06/2003, 10:31pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Jhoh Creexul 04/06/2003, 10:44pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: Mom, Dad, I hate it when you fight! by Bill Dungsroman 04/06/2003, 11:07pm PDT NEW
                                                    OMFG joo are sooo Vag LOLERZ!!!! by lessmedsplz 04/06/2003, 10:43pm PDT NEW
                                                        OMFG LO- sorry, what? by Ray, of Light 04/06/2003, 11:21pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: OMFG LO- sorry, what? by lessmedsplz 04/06/2003, 11:49pm PDT NEW
                                                                Heh -nt- by Ray, of Light 04/07/2003, 12:04am PDT NEW
                                                        Record of the Pond Pavilion by Mr. Palomar 04/07/2003, 12:23am PDT NEW
                                                            The la(te)st in a long string of disappointments by Ray, of Light 04/07/2003, 1:14am PDT NEW
                                                                OMG!!!!1!1! CHECK MY IP!!! This IS NOT ZSENI IVEREAD3BOOKSFOREVERY1YOUVESEEN NT by Mr. Palomar 04/07/2003, 1:40am PDT NEW
                                                    "But what," say the forum denizens, "does pod people think?" by up with pod people 04/06/2003, 10:57pm PDT NEW
                                                    Mystery Solved by Mischief Maker 04/06/2003, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                                                Excuse me, what? by I need clarification 04/07/2003, 12:13am PDT NEW
                                                    You're a fag... or whatever. by Fullofkittens 04/07/2003, 12:29am PDT NEW
                                            ME TOO by creativepig 04/06/2003, 6:25pm PDT NEW
    Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 9:38pm PST NEW
        Faggotry+synergy=the last 24 hours. LET IT DIE(the drama, not the website) by SBDMT 04/05/2003, 11:50pm PST NEW
            Re: Faggotry+synergy=the last 24 hours. LET IT DIE(the drama, not the website) by Jhoh Creexul 04/05/2003, 11:51pm PST NEW
        THEN JUST MOTHERFUCKING GO RETARD. NT by The back of everyone's mind 04/06/2003, 12:12am PST NEW
            So in the back of everyone's mind, everyone is a big pussy? NT by Jhoh Creexul 04/06/2003, 12:19am PST NEW
    Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by ydrt 04/05/2003, 11:49pm PST NEW
    Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by moremedsplz 04/06/2003, 4:53pm PDT NEW
    I have an opinion... and it's stupid. by mrs. johnson 04/06/2003, 7:57pm PDT NEW
        I share this stupid opinion. NT by curst 04/06/2003, 9:32pm PDT NEW
    Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by Entropy Stew 04/06/2003, 8:05pm PDT NEW
        Re: I'm not one to give an ultimatum (Well, maybe I am), but... by moremedsplz 04/06/2003, 9:23pm PDT NEW
        I made it so you guys would listen. It seems to have worked. by Bill Dungsroman 04/06/2003, 11:06pm PDT NEW
            BDR comes down, community rejoices. Hot gay sex ensues. NT by mrs. johnson 04/06/2003, 11:21pm PDT NEW
            Thanks, and I agree with both BDR and ES here. Sorry about the mistaken ID, BDR by Senor Barborito 04/07/2003, 12:10am PDT NEW
 
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