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by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 7:00pm PDT |
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Lizard_King wrote:
laudablepuss wrote:
Dude, take a look at the link I gave you about Yellowcakegate. Scroll down to the bottom and click on the link "Did Condi give the game away?" Take a look at the rest of them while you're at it.
Read the one you cited and the Rice-specific one.
laudablepuss wrote:
Go ahead and embrace it: it was a lie. It was removed from an October speach because it was crap. Then it was deliberately put back into the State of the Union Address.
Because? Because? Give me a reason. The ones that still seem most plausible are those surrounding wishful thinking. Cheney is many things, but hardly a fool. If he is the "overriding authority" (since God forbid we allow Bush a shred of autonomy), why would he gamble on information he was certain was false, especially given the scrutiny every claim about Iraq, even the most facially obvious ones, had met in the past? I think it much more likely that he had a reasonable belief it was true.
Here's the thing I was thinking of. Sorry about that. For your convenience:
Timothy Noah wrote:
Rice was basically correct that a reference to "a single incident"—Saddam's purported attempt to purchase up to 500 metric tons of uranium oxide in Niger—was removed from the Cincinnati speech at Tenet's request. (It would have been more precise to say this was a reference to "a single number.") But Rice was wrong to say that this was the only change Tenet requested. Hadley, her deputy, revealed at the July 22 briefing that Tenet also objected to revised language in the speech referring more generally to Saddam's purported yellowcake safari. As Hadley's comment above makes clear, Tenet didn't want Bush to mention the yellowcake allegations at all.
So as far as I can tell, the alternative explanation to knowingly lying is incredible stupidity. On the otherhand, why choose?
(This concludes Timothy Noah Fan Hour.)
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The man just keeps making sense. by Lizard_King 08/06/2003, 10:07pm PDT 
Re: The man just keeps making sense. by Antonius Snape 08/07/2003, 4:12am PDT 
You cite Buchanan AND Raimondo in one post. by Lizard_King 08/07/2003, 2:32pm PDT 
Re: You cite Buchanan AND Raimondo in one post. by foogla 08/07/2003, 3:41pm PDT 
Re: You cite Buchanan AND Raimondo in one post. by laudablepuss 08/07/2003, 4:13pm PDT 
Didn't his awful cruelty and dictatorship bother you? Only WMDs? NT by mrs. johnson 08/07/2003, 5:02pm PDT 
Sure. So what? by laudablepuss 08/07/2003, 5:16pm PDT 
Re: Didn't his awful cruelty and dictatorship bother you? Only WMDs? by Lizard_King 08/07/2003, 9:10pm PDT 
Re: Didn't his awful cruelty and dictatorship bother you? Only WMDs? by godamit 08/08/2003, 10:49am PDT 
Re: You cite Buchanan AND Raimondo in one post. by Lizard_King 08/07/2003, 8:55pm PDT 
Re: You cite Buchanan AND Raimondo in one post. by foogla 08/08/2003, 4:32am PDT 
The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by Senor Barborito 08/08/2003, 4:34am PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 10:49am PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 11:05am PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 11:17am PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by Fullofkittens 08/08/2003, 12:31pm PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 12:44pm PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 3:03pm PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 3:59pm PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 4:27pm PDT 
My "we elected Gore" comment... by Fullofkittens 08/08/2003, 4:57pm PDT 
Re: My "we elected Gore" comment... by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 5:29pm PDT 
As you speak by Fullofkittens 08/08/2003, 7:01pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 7:19pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 9:33pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 12:00am PDT 
What the hell? by Damocles 08/09/2003, 2:12am PDT 
Re: What the hell? by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 2:29am PDT 
Re: As you speak by I need clarification 08/09/2003, 2:33pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 4:24pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by I need clarification 08/09/2003, 4:52pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 5:41pm PDT 
Re: As you speak by I need clarification 08/09/2003, 10:22pm PDT 
If we were a democracy we'd get better tech, but then have riots because of Iraq NT by Roop Dirump 08/09/2003, 11:07pm PDT 
Or you'd have more energy, more Fungus growth and more Drones while at war. NT by foogla 08/10/2003, 4:49am PDT 
Are you just trolling me now? Or have you always? NT by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 11:46pm PDT 
For a while now, yeah by I need clarification 08/10/2003, 1:14am PDT 
Re: The real reason the left opposed the war, and other crap by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 5:54pm PDT 
My pleasure by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 6:03pm PDT 
Well, that explains a lot. by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 6:35pm PDT 
I hate it when you get lazy by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 2:01pm PDT 
I hate it when you post by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 2:54pm PDT 
Re: I hate it when you post by Dr. Logic 08/08/2003, 3:40pm PDT 
Re: I hate it when you post by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 3:52pm PDT 
Re: I hate it when you post by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 5:26pm PDT 
Re: I hate it when you post by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 5:56pm PDT 
My mistake. by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 7:00pm PDT 
Re: My mistake. by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 8:51pm PDT 
Don't accuse me of babbling while the spit bubbles drift by your retard helmet by I need clarification 08/08/2003, 3:52pm PDT 
Re: Don't accuse me of babbling while the spit bubbles drift by your retard helm by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 3:58pm PDT 
Re: Don't accuse me of babbling while the spit bubbles drift by your retard helm by Dr. Logic 08/08/2003, 4:06pm PDT 
It didn't originate from the document. by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 4:34pm PDT 
"learned" implies truth. NT by Damocles 08/09/2003, 2:13am PDT 
Hitting "reply" implies you have something to add. by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 2:31am PDT 
I used to think LK was Damocles's new nick NT by FABIO 08/09/2003, 10:52pm PDT 
That our views are directly contrary must have tipped you off. NT by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 11:46pm PDT 
Re: That our views are directly contrary must have tipped you off. by FABIO 08/10/2003, 1:29am PDT 
Since you asked me by Senor Barborito 08/08/2003, 7:01pm PDT 
Re: Since you asked me by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 9:25pm PDT 
That response was beneath you by Senor Barborito 08/08/2003, 10:44pm PDT 
Nothing is beneath me. by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 11:56pm PDT 
Thank you. by Senor Barborito 08/09/2003, 7:12am PDT 
Re: Thank you. by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 1:13pm PDT 
Hmmm by Senor Barborito 08/09/2003, 2:57pm PDT 
Re: Hmmm by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 5:47pm PDT 
WHAT??!!!! by Mischief Maker 08/08/2003, 1:08pm PDT 
That's because you are (far) to the left of even them. by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 2:55pm PDT 
Imagine an airplane. by laudablepuss 08/08/2003, 3:30pm PDT 
Re: Imagine an airplane. by Lizard_King 08/08/2003, 3:49pm PDT 
You people must feel awful by mrs. johnson 08/08/2003, 6:54pm PDT 
That's not what a writer would do NT by Fussbett 08/09/2003, 2:21am PDT 
Ignorance is only bliss for fools and cowards.NT NT by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 5:49pm PDT 
What if the topic at hand is menstruation? NT by Senor Barborito 08/09/2003, 6:20pm PDT 
Your own or someone else's? NT by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 6:42pm PDT 
When can I stop imagining an airplane? NT by Fussbett 08/09/2003, 2:23am PDT 
Now you have to imagine it slamming into the WTC :( NT by I need clarification 08/09/2003, 2:50am PDT 
Then you have to imagine the entire passanger compliment fucking. wildly. -nt- by Chairman Mao 08/09/2003, 3:11am PDT 
Talk about explosive orgasms NT by TERRASTS R SEXY 08/09/2003, 2:58pm PDT 
On the upside: Hippies and Nazis on the left wing die. NT by Fussbett 08/09/2003, 4:59pm PDT 
:( NT by foogla 08/09/2003, 8:00pm PDT 
I was going to tie it in and forgot. So, uh, you can stop now. NT by laudablepuss 08/10/2003, 3:22am PDT 
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